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puke7
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146127
Level 31 Chipist
kleeder
 
 
 
post #146127 :: 2021.09.01 3:54pm
  
  themnotyou, nitrofurano, mirageofher, puke7 and cabbage drop liēkd this
yayayayayayayaa!!

i will hardware render all submissions!
if u have any questions about tedzakker, hit me up, i'd love to help!!
if u wanna collabo, message me as well!!!
 
 
146135
Level 29 Chipist
Tobikomi
 
 
 
post #146135 :: 2021.09.01 7:26pm
  
  kleeder and mirageofher liēkd this
OH SNAP!! :O
 
 
146202
Level 0 n00b
Allomerus
 
 
post #146202 :: 2021.09.03 6:35pm
I'm having some trouble with Knaecketraecker... I can't get it to play, even with the demo songs. Does anybody have a fix for this issue?
 
 
146229
Level 23 Chipist
nitrofurano
 
 
 
post #146229 :: 2021.09.04 7:33am
@Allomerus no idea at all... my last attempt was totally trial and error, and i forgot everything.... :D - but i think it worked minimally fine then, and not now i wonder why... (i ran it on wine, on ubuntu gnu/linux)
 
 
146255
Level 0 n00b
Allomerus
 
 
post #146255 :: 2021.09.04 2:56pm
  
  nitrofurano liēkd this
@nitrofurano thanks anyways. I'm on windows 10 btw
 
 
146415
Level 30 Mixist
Baron Knoxburry
 
 
 
post #146415 :: 2021.09.06 10:30am
  
  nitrofurano, cabbage drop and kleeder liēkd this
i need to get mine out of the box and make sure it still turns on!! :u
 
 
146462
Level 30 Mixist
Baron Knoxburry
 
 
 
post #146462 :: 2021.09.07 6:56am
  
  mirageofher, kleeder and MKSTAR26 liēkd this
awe poo -- well hafl way there
the plus/4 works but i need adaptors for sd2iec (or a different one entirely) and joystick (for games)
gonna order that stuff today
hopefully i can do ntsc renders before the battle ends!!
pics: https://twitter.com/b_knox/status/1435240211357765633?s=20
 
 
146468
Level 19 Pedagogist
R3M
 
 
 
post #146468 :: 2021.09.07 10:05am
  
  mirageofher, Baron Knoxburry and kleeder liēkd this
using the Plus4 emulator from VICE with TEDzakker has produced results! i think it might be better than Knaecketraecker.
 
 
146469
Level 31 Chipist
kleeder
 
 
 
post #146469 :: 2021.09.07 10:14am
  
  mirageofher, cabbage drop, Baron Knoxburry, R3M and nitrofurano liēkd this
it definitely is the better option.
tutorial coming soon in case its needed
 
 
146594
Level 31 Chipist
kleeder
 
 
 
post #146594 :: 2021.09.09 6:43am
  
  mirageofher, cabbage drop, argarak, nitrofurano, DashingElektron, plainoldcheese and Baron Knoxburry liēkd this
recorded a quick tutorial on how to get tedzakker up and running, i hope this helps someone
https://youtu.be/NL5bo2WJMzU
 
 
146677
Level 0 n00b
Allomerus
 
 
post #146677 :: 2021.09.11 10:15am
  
  nitrofurano and kleeder liēkd this
Much thanks @kleeder, it's very helpful!
 
 
146760
Level 23 Chipist
nitrofurano
 
 
 
post #146760 :: 2021.09.15 11:18am :: edit 2021.09.15 11:23am
trying on gnu/linux: xplus4.exe isn't running on wine (nothing appears, and no error messages in the terminal when attempting to run from there), and xplus4 (installed from ubuntu repository) says "PLUS4MEM: Error - Couldn't load kernal ROM `kernal'." - i actually previously copied the folder PLUS4 (rom files and etc., from the vice link provided from lyceum and tutorial) to '~/.vice/' , so i wonder why it isn't running - i'll keep trying (also for trying to document it and share here) - anyway, the tutorial is indeed helpful, perhaps would be a good idea have this youtube link in the lyceum as well? - DirMaster seems to run fine on wine (note: youtube's automatic transcription thought you said "dealmaster"... (might be because the german accent...) so i guess we need to improve the transcription (like on amara, i can put some hand on it) and upload the srt back on youtube? )
 
 
146762
Level 31 Chipist
kleeder
 
 
 
post #146762 :: 2021.09.15 12:10pm
  
  nitrofurano liēkd this
as i said, i made a win-tutorial, i have no idea how it works on other OS
i dont care about transcriptions at all
 
 
146763
Level 23 Chipist
nitrofurano
 
 
 
post #146763 :: 2021.09.15 1:23pm :: edit 2021.09.15 1:35pm
  
  kleeder liēkd this
exactly, and your tutorial (which is a good one!) is really an excellent start for all those non-mswindows users like some of us, it's just up to ourselves about finding out how it will work on all needed "alternative" steps

for example, minus4 emulator is running fine here on wine - i just need to try it better and see if i can do there the same as i could on vice

transcriptions are quite useful because you can read everything said at once, that was the context i was talking about - they are really useful documentation as well, and also a very valid alternative resource - and even more when we have adhd! :)
 
 
146765
Level 31 Chipist
kleeder
 
 
 
post #146765 :: 2021.09.15 1:53pm
  
  nitrofurano liēkd this
there are quite some plus4 emulators out there, if vice is not working for you, it should be no problem to find alternatives (as you did ;D) - as long as they can attach disk images.

(this goes to everyone, not just nitro)
 
 
146792
Level 12 Chipist
DefenseMechanism
 
 
post #146792 :: 2021.09.16 8:54am :: edit 2021.09.16 8:18pm
  
  nitrofurano and kleeder liēkd this
there are linux builds of vice! it's in the ubuntu repos but it looks like you can also get it here https://pkgs.org/download/vice

edit: however you WILL still need to download the windows version because it comes with the kernal roms etc - just copy the PLUS4 folder to /usr/lib/vice or ~/.vice

edit2: if VICE complains about not being able to load the .prg file, go into Settings - Machine - Autostart - and set Autostart PRG mode to 'Inject into RAM' and that should do it!
 
 
146819
Level 23 Chipist
nitrofurano
 
 
 
post #146819 :: 2021.09.17 8:46am :: edit 2021.09.17 1:55pm
@DefenseMechanism thanks a lot for the feedback, but this is how i have it now and before my message saying that vice wasn't running: https://pastebin.com/raw/U2kJ6gKA - an error message mentioning kernal file is missing, when it is actually there, and copied from the ms-windows downloaded version - this is why i got that surprised... :S
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and about tedzakker (on minus4 emulator on wine, while i'm still struggling on vice) now i'm struggling on the part "saving error 3! press a key. free:...kb", as from an empty .d64 (created on dirmaster, even with chmod set as 777), as from a duplicated tedzakker.d64 - is it only me getting this error?
 
 
146820
Level 23 Chipist
nitrofurano
 
 
 
post #146820 :: 2021.09.17 1:53pm
now i'm struggling on the part "saving error 3! press a key. free:...kb", as from an empty .d64 (created on dirmaster, even with chmod set as 777), as from a duplicated tedzakker.d64 - is it only me getting this error?
 
 
146840
Level 12 Chipist
DefenseMechanism
 
 
post #146840 :: 2021.09.18 8:04am
  
  nitrofurano liēkd this
@nitrofurano that is weird - it must be expecting to find kernal in a different location? i'm running 3.4 and it's loading kernal from /usr/lib/vice/PLUS4/
 
 
146848
Level 23 Chipist
nitrofurano
 
 
 
post #146848 :: 2021.09.18 1:44pm :: edit 2021.09.18 2:12pm
@DefenseMechanism yes, really weird - from what i have from ~/.vice/PLUS4/kernal :
md5sum: 89f5263665a8dc10c8f8abc38f5f7eb9
sha1sum: 7c7e07f016391174a557e790c4ef1cbe33512cdb
chmod is 664 - user is the same from login
what i have at /usr/lib/vice/PLUS4/kernal is exactly the same - and i have no idea where else all these files (kernal and all others) should be placed as well...
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finally i started to make some sound on yape emulator (but it crashes a lot, totally affecting the loading/editing/saving iterative process), and also tried on mame (which i could only attach imagefiles, not prg files) - and i keep trying on and on... :D
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talking about yape emulator, curious is how the description on its official webpage starts (http://yape.homeserver.hu/download.htm): "yape is a decent no-nonsense plus/4 emulator." (are such nonsense issues like this i'm getting from vice? :O )
 
 
146852
Level 4 XHBist
DuccBoi
 
 
post #146852 :: 2021.09.18 4:57pm
  
  nitrofurano liēkd this
this should be interesting.
 
 
146870
Level 23 Chipist
nitrofurano
 
 
 
post #146870 :: 2021.09.19 3:23am :: edit 2021.09.20 3:06pm
composing on tedzakker is quite curious, we need to take notes a lot.... :D (and going to share them soon (like all those example instruments in a text file and etc. - started something at https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/tedzakkerinstruments ) - for starting, "c=" key from readme.txt means leftctrl key on yape emulator)
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this old ms-windows version of vice worked fine on wine, used it for recording wav - https://csdb.dk/release/?id=85620
 
 
146987
Level 31 Chipist
kleeder
 
 
 
post #146987 :: 2021.09.21 1:46pm
  
  TristEndo liēkd this
if you wanna take a look at another tedzakker project file, heres the workfile from jakersons and mine summerchip entry
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/239107754575265803/889975570115465326/the_idea.tzw.prg
 
 

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