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puke7
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142279
Level 31 Chipist
kleeder
 
 
 
post #142279 :: 2021.06.02 11:28am
  
  now_its_dark, Jakerson, TrippleP, qrqrqr0515_1 and puke7 liēkd this
ohhhh yeaaaaaaa lets do drugs, kids ^o^
 
 
142282
Level 4 Chipist
denkiRAS
 
 
post #142282 :: 2021.06.02 12:11pm :: edit 2021.06.02 12:39pm
  
  tennisers liēkd this
time to listen to a lot of psychadelic trance

[EDIT 20210602] I just noticed that this is a wildchip... (puts away all of his software synths)

I'll figure something out maybe
 
 
142284
Level 25 Chipist
TrippleP
 
 
 
post #142284 :: 2021.06.02 12:36pm
  
  kleeder liēkd this
looking forward to participate in it! unzunz
 
 
142285
Level 24 Chipist
Jakerson
 
 
 
post #142285 :: 2021.06.02 1:16pm
  
  kleeder and father liēkd this
Yeah drugs i like drugs
 
 
142291
Level 15 Criticist
DCT Master
 
 
post #142291 :: 2021.06.02 2:38pm
  
  RazerBlue6 liēkd this
Wanted to make some psychedelic folk rock kinda thing but that pulse wave lead is killing me, i would've prefered to use guitar for lead.
 
 
142294
Level 24 Chipist
BubblegumOctopus
 
 
 
post #142294 :: 2021.06.02 3:35pm :: edit 2021.06.02 5:02pm
Pulse wave lead is a bit of a deterrent for me as well, but I'd still like to take a shot at it if I have time. I know it can be only for a section or something.

In any case, just for the sake of clarity for makers and voters: "dry" in this case doesn't mean no reverb/delay on it, correct? Im taking it to mean "identifiably a pulse wave in chiptune tradition" but verification would be cool
 
 
142296
Level 31 Chipist
kleeder
 
 
 
post #142296 :: 2021.06.02 3:41pm
yes i think thats the intention of the rule. "identifiably a pulse wave in chiptune tradition" is a very good way to word it
 
 
142299
Level 26 Mixist
mk7
 
 
 
post #142299 :: 2021.06.02 7:57pm
Does this still count if I put a heavy echo on the pulse?
The dry sound would still be in a mix, but there will also be a wet signal from echo on that pulse :D
 
 
142304
Level 13 Chipist
birdrun
 
 
post #142304 :: 2021.06.03 4:44am
Welp, guess I need to sit down and figure out what psychadelic music is actually supposed to be (or at least what it's supposed to sound like)
 
 
142329
Level 28 Hostist
puke7
 
 
 
post #142329 :: 2021.06.03 10:42am
  
  father, sleeparrow, mk7, now_its_dark and Jangler liēkd this
yeah its difficult for me to say what the rules are on the lead

in my mind i don't think the waveform is much different from a guitar playing single notes with a fuzz distortion

also -- pulse wave can be any duty cycle animated or not

also -- i love manually tracked pulse wave echoes

so, i guess, if i had my druthers i'd say: pulse lead can only have additive effects? so no filters? which would include something like a phasor would be bad, but delay/reverb/chorus is fine? idk haha -- do whatever you want but have a damn chiptune lead damnit
 
 
142350
Level 4 Chipist
denkiRAS
 
 
post #142350 :: 2021.06.03 1:40pm
  
  kfaraday liēkd this
time to become camellia
 
 
142357
Level 28 Hostist
puke7
 
 
 
post #142357 :: 2021.06.03 2:01pm :: edit 2021.06.03 4:15pm
  
  Secret Snail liēkd this
obviously if you want to sing in pop song format and just have a solo somewhere thats fine.... its just a prompt! SHEEEESH!!! :D/

[edit] also guitar solos are not banned!!! <3
 
 
142361
Level 29 Chipist
Tobikomi
 
 
 
post #142361 :: 2021.06.03 2:06pm
  
  Secret Snail liēkd this
Can't wait to try this out!
 
 
142366
Level 21 Chipist
nitrofurano
 
 
 
post #142366 :: 2021.06.03 2:24pm
  
  Secret Snail liēkd this
related to psychedelic, the first thing that came to mind was mellotron! :D
 
 
142390
Level 6 Mixist
Secret Snail
 
 
post #142390 :: 2021.06.03 4:55pm
VrooOOOOOOOM!!!!
 
 
142399
Level 26 Mixist
Xaser
 
 
 
post #142399 :: 2021.06.03 11:59pm
Apologies for bein' Mr. McDumb, but does someone have an example songong handy for the extra-dry pulse wave lead stout thingy? My earpieces definitely probably know what that is, but the Xaserbrain can't convert musicwords to musicsounds very goodly. :(
 
 
142402
Level 28 Mixist
tennisers
 
 
 
post #142402 :: 2021.06.04 5:06am
  
  puke7 liēkd this
pick almost any nsf entry
 
 
142421
Level 28 Hostist
puke7
 
 
 
post #142421 :: 2021.06.04 10:55am :: edit 2021.06.04 10:56am
  
  Xaser, nitrofurano and denkiRAS liēkd this
yeah i guess i should remove the word "dry" from the prompt

dry just means no effects on it -- but i've already said multiple things in this thread contrary to that

square wave is a pulse wave with a 50% duty cycle
the nes has 4 different duty cycle lengths to choose from for the pulse waves....
its an adjustable waveform
simplest version is just use a squarewave
most synths have them

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulse_wave
 
 
142425
Level 4 Chipist
denkiRAS
 
 
post #142425 :: 2021.06.04 11:40am
|・ω・) can i use a sawtooth instead
 
 
142428
 
 
142435
Level 21 Chipist
nitrofurano
 
 
 
post #142435 :: 2021.06.04 1:36pm :: edit 2021.06.04 1:38pm
@denkiRAS besides my huge ignorance on this, i think that supersaw waveform was quite used on goa trance? - https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Block-diagram-of-the-supersaw-simulation-algorithm-shows-also-that-nested-phaseshaping_fig13_228915867
 
 
142442
Level 21 Criticist
Xyz
 
 
 
post #142442 :: 2021.06.04 10:42pm
  
  irrlicht project liēkd this
 
 
142455
Level 28 Hostist
puke7
 
 
 
post #142455 :: 2021.06.05 2:22pm :: edit 2021.06.05 3:40pm
  
  Post-retro, Sloopygoop, Xaser, mk7, nitrofurano, kfaraday, sean, TristEndo, tree, damifortune, zygrunt, Ethlial, irrlicht project, cabbage drop and kleeder liēkd this
Alright -- have had a lot of confusion on what this word "psychedelic" really means. It would make sense I took for granted my own understanding having grown up in the 80s and 90s with access to my father's collection of hippy music. And that's pretty much where this genre gets its start!

So the first rock/pop songs that come to mind are things like Strawberry Alarm Clock - Incense & Peppermints
or even Amboy Dukes - Journey to the Center of the Mind
but then there are also big longboy musical journeys like The Doors - Riders on the Storm
or Iron Butterfly - In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida


And I'm already worried I'm just throwing a bunch of music at y'all w/o any explanation. I'd have to say the term "psychedelic", much like vaporwave, more alludes to an attitude or aesthetic than a musical genre. Lyrics can be about altering consciousness, human reflection, or anything really. Honestly, I think watching the movie Austin Powers would be the quickest way to deep dive into this time and mindset even if its all jokes. :D

Obviously I can't go on without mentioning The Beatles who's entire catalog from Rubber Soul onward is considered psychadelic. Songs I would highlight include: A Day in the Life
and Strawberry Fields Forever
and Happiness is a Warm Gun
or even the crazy funk they bring in Come Together


Jimi Hendrix would be another big one -- ugg I don't even know where to start!! There's hits like The Wind Cries Mary
and Purple Haze
and Are You Experienced?
and the epic cover of Bob Dylan's All Along the Watchtower
and a couple of my favorites are the big long jams like Third Stone from the Sun
and best blues song ever recorded: Machine Gun
(ok I am biased)

I've never been a big fan of The Rolling Stones but its important to note most folk had never heard such a deliberately distorted guitar "trying to sound like a horn" before Satisfaction
but if we're gonna listen to the stones I'd prolly suggest Paint It Black
which hella jams.

haha ok -- so there is so much music from this late 60s / early 70s era I'm going to cut it short (maybe more of The Doors but all my friends hate them). I have no idea how many times I watched the Woodstock
documentary film growing up. haha which reminded me of Canned Heat - Going Up the Country
so good! :D is it psychedelic? idk?! :shrug: ahahaha

ok -- 70s and 80s really gave way to the arena/glam rock/metal era which wasn't as psychedelic centered but we still got some trippy song breakdowns from Led Zeppelin inside hits like Whole Lotta Love
but they also had big long jams like Kashmir
and No Quarter
and Dazed and Confused


PINK FLOYD!!!!! uh.... just put on Dark Side of the Moon
you've probably heard half of it already anyways.... Animals
is another incredible album haha where a melancholy ditty bookends 3 songs over 11 minutes long each. If I had to pick a single random song I guess I'd go with Welcome to the Machine
which really showcases early synthesizers and tape manipulations in the mid 70s.

Damn did I miss David Bowie? Space Oddity
omg which gave us Moonmen


Even the damn Dr Who theme
is psychedelic af

gonna throw in some Black Sabbath : Planet Caravan
and (song of the same name)
-- and Ted Nugent's Stranglehold
too

the 80s.... uh I'm sure I could think of something if I really tried...

Circa 1990 we have the grunge explosion which featured a slight return to guitar effect driven writing. Some random singles from the era I would consider psychedelic:
Sonic Youth - Bull in the Heather

Nirvana - Come as You Are

Smashing Pumpkins - Rocket

Primus - Southbound Pachyderm

haha idk the further i go down this road the more embarrassing it gets.... I was a 90s teen

I think the shoegaze genre is very psychedelic so albums like My Bloody Valentine's Loveless
and Lush's Spooky
get big ups from me

Things start to get hazier for me chronologically from here. I think stoner metal def has some psychedelic properties like Pelican

and Electric Wizard
-- wew that went out left field xD

I came up with all of this off the top of my head; here's another list of stuff someone else came up with link


I guess I should imply that alot of this music was inspired by new sounds that came from new effects (guitar pedals) and new instruments (synths). Distortions, reverb, chorus, delay, and phasors are typical additives to the tone and color.

TL;DR -- This is has been a long list of rock music and I don't want anyone to think they have to adhere to that sort of instrumentation or any kind of specific composing style imposed by my suggestions. A lot of people have been asking questions about "psychedelic" as a musical genre and this is what that word means to me. :D/
 
 
142456
Level 27 Chipist
KungFuFurby
 
 
 
post #142456 :: 2021.06.05 3:19pm
Amazingly, I actually had a somewhat decent reference mainly because I thought I had heard something of this style... and it was of the 60s material. I will admit that the Beatles came to my mind, if only because it was the first thing that came out of my head... and there is actually quite a good variety of them.
 
 
142461
Level 23 Chipist
irrlicht project
 
 
 
post #142461 :: 2021.06.05 4:42pm
  
  late, Sloopygoop and puke7 liēkd this
Now that's a damn fine list and commentary, beardy man.
 
 
142602
Level 4 Chipist
denkiRAS
 
 
post #142602 :: 2021.06.09 2:13am
  
  puke7, Sloopygoop and Grumskiz liēkd this
i think i'll stick to trying to produce fakebit psytrance because uh

yeah

psytrance is literally the only thing i think about when i think psychedelic ( ゚^゚)
 
 
142664
Level 15 Chipist
Sloopygoop
 
 
post #142664 :: 2021.06.11 8:48am
  
  now_its_dark and puke7 liēkd this
Let's get weird, let's get trippy, let's drone our minds into another plane of consciousness, man! Those are some A+ references from Puke, it makes me smile just to read them all!
 
 

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