A Capella
 

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131658
Level 26 Mixist
petet
 
 
 
post #131658 :: 2020.12.01 12:25am
  
  mirageofher, Quirby64, Xyz, MiDoRi, Viravax and Tilde liēkd this
ooh!

one initial question: how much vocal processing is allowed? absolutely none? compression/reverb? distortion/pitch shifting/granular synthesis to the point where it's unrecognizable? it's probably a good idea to set some base expectations here.
 
 
131671
Level 30 Chipist
kleeder
 
 
 
post #131671 :: 2020.12.01 1:51am
  
  Torowin, mirageofher, Quirby64, joshcat and kfaraday liēkd this
humanism, vocality, a capellaness, singing, voice in pants
 
 
131683
Level 14 Mixist
Viravax
 
 
post #131683 :: 2020.12.01 5:28am :: edit 2020.12.01 5:43am
  
  Quirby64 liēkd this
I second petet's question. Are we allowed to use FX / processing to enhance our vocals in any way or does it have to be as raw as possible?

Also, in terms of using other human voices, what's the standing on using say like acapellas or isolated vocals from songs?

Either way, this is a fun idea and I'm looking forward to making something for this :)
 
 
131684
Level 16 Chipist
zygrunt
 
 
post #131684 :: 2020.12.01 5:54am
  
  mirageofher, Razerek and Jessica Robo hæitd this
  
  Post-retro, Xaser, Deathro, VirtualMan, Modus Ponens, Quirby64, Xyz, YQN and Jakerson liēkd this
I wish I was human
 
 
131686
Level 23 Chipist
Jakerson
 
 
 
post #131686 :: 2020.12.01 5:57am
  
  Quirby64 and zygrunt liēkd this
me too
 
 
131687
Level 23 Chipist
Jakerson
 
 
 
post #131687 :: 2020.12.01 5:57am :: edit 2020.12.01 5:57am
.
 
 
131688
Level 26 Chipist
raphaelgoulart
 
 
 
post #131688 :: 2020.12.01 5:58am
  
  mirageofher, Quirby64, Viravax and Jakerson liēkd this
my guess (emphasis: it's a guess, not official) is that post-processing is allowed as long as it's still recognisable as voice. what's "recognisable as voice" can vary from person to person, so it's up for the voter to determine whether an entry is valid or not, and vote accordingly.
though if there's recognisable vocals somewhere, then it's probably good; so you can have a mix of recognisable and unrecognisable vocals, if you wish.

as for using existing voice clips, be careful with copyright stuff - my assumption is that anything not protected by copyright is good, but imo that kinda goes against the spirit of the compo; if you have good ideas but don't want to use your own voice, just collab with someone else :-)

again though, this is just my 2c. i assume that, in the end, a good part of it will be up to the voter to decide anyways
 
 
131691
Level 27 Mixist
tennisers
 
 
 
post #131691 :: 2020.12.01 7:07am :: edit 2020.12.01 7:25am
  
  Quirby64 liēkd this
o yea
(also i feel the compo description implies that all vocals should be recognizable, but that limited processing is acceptable, as that's how a capella itself is)
 
 
131693
Level 18 Chipist
RadamLee
 
 
 
post #131693 :: 2020.12.01 7:27am
  
  mirageofher, blunderspublik, xterm, now_its_dark, VirtualMan, YQN and Viravax liēkd this
you're telling me this hole in my face can eat cereal AND make music?!?!

oh boy
 
 
131695
Level 28 Hostist
puke7
 
 
 
post #131695 :: 2020.12.01 7:43am
  
  Torowin, mirageofher, blunderspublik, Tilde, Xyz, Quirby64, RadamLee, irrlicht project, raphaelgoulart, Viravax and kleeder liēkd this
these are great questions!

yes the cereal hole can make whole sounds!! WOWOWOWOW

I'll say this: I'd rather hear someone recorded themselves 3-10 times to create a chorus rather than someone applying a chorus effect to their voice.... tracks shouldn't be afraid to polish with eq/compression/panning, but that's kind of where I draw the line. I guess some slight, natural-sounding reverb is fine.... but really the recording (especially for this battle) should be all about featuring original human voice and that only...
the new vocal format, however, is meant to force the inclusion of human voice with whatever accompaniment in an allgear situation (but don't forget this major is a capella WOW!)
 
 
131696
Level 12 XHBist
Cepukka
 
 
post #131696 :: 2020.12.01 7:45am
  
  Tilde and Viravax liēkd this
Would autotune be allowed for the vocal format and the A Capella major?
 
 
131699
Level 28 Hostist
puke7
 
 
 
post #131699 :: 2020.12.01 8:21am
i guess so :shrug:

i def agree its fine with the general use of the format
 
 
131700
Level 22 Mixist
Vav
 
 
 
post #131700 :: 2020.12.01 8:26am
  
  mirageofher, Tilde, Xaser, Trreck, Quirby64, Xyz, Jakerson, DevEd, irrlicht project, argarak, YQN, puke7, kleeder, raphaelgoulart and TrippleP liēkd this
is this where the beatboxing contest is
 
 
131701
Level 25 Chipist
TrippleP
 
 
 
post #131701 :: 2020.12.01 8:30am
  
  Quirby64, Jakerson and kleeder liēkd this
oh hell yeah
 
 
131705
Level 14 Mixist
Viravax
 
 
post #131705 :: 2020.12.01 8:54am
  
  mirageofher and TrippleP liēkd this
I appreciate having a form of autotune / harmonizer accepted because my singing skills are not at peak performance.

Also time to start practicing my boots and cats
 
 
131710
Level 23 Chipist
irrlicht project
 
 
 
post #131710 :: 2020.12.01 9:50am
  
  Xyz, Quirby64, puke7 and kleeder liēkd this
Autotune is an abomination and if you use it you're A Bad Person and will burn in hell on turbo setting.

Jokes aside though, I actually get physically sick from listening to autotuned vocals. So you can probably guess what my vote on tracks using autotune will be. If you can't sing on tune then please... simply don't. There's a ton more you can do with your voice other than just singing. And aside from that I'm totally fine with out-of-tune singing ;)
 
 
131711
Level 23 Chipist
YQN
 
 
 
post #131711 :: 2020.12.01 10:02am :: edit 2020.12.01 10:11am
  
  VirtualMan, Quirby64 and puke7 liēkd this
kurt cobain, lou reed, thurston moore, daniel johnston etc. can't or couldn't sing. put enough spirit in your music and you won't need autotune (let alone excuses for using it).

read: i'll most probably downvote autotunagisms.

(should i vote)

edit: didn't i just forget that smiley fucker? this comment sounded rude, however right!

:)
 
 
131724
Level 25 Chipist
kgb525
 
 
 
post #131724 :: 2020.12.01 12:46pm
  
  Quirby64 liēkd this
Ooooh fun fun fun!
 
 
131732
Level 27 Mixist
tennisers
 
 
 
post #131732 :: 2020.12.01 4:12pm :: edit 2020.12.01 4:14pm
  
  Xaser, Quirby64 and irrlicht project liēkd this
most commercial music nowadays has pitch correction on vocals in a way that is hard to detect. that said, the spirit of a capella is live chorus performances, and heavy autotune as an effect a la T-Pain seems like overly heavy processing to align with the intent of the compo.
 
 
131740
Level 18 Chipist
Modus Ponens
 
 
 
post #131740 :: 2020.12.01 6:32pm
  
  Jessica Robo and Xyz liēkd this
Could we set an existing published poem to music and sing it, or do any lyrics we use have to be original works as well?
 
 
131751
Level 23 Mixist
Zillah
 
 
 
post #131751 :: 2020.12.01 8:35pm
This should be interesting
 
 
131752
Level 9 Playa
VirtualMan
 
 
post #131752 :: 2020.12.01 8:58pm
  
  blunderspublik liēkd this
If Bob Dylan could win Grammies for puffing mouth farts and a wee bit of soul onto wax, BotBrs can win my votes (and heart) without Auto-Tune™!
 
 
131754
Level 21 Criticist
Xyz
 
 
 
post #131754 :: 2020.12.01 9:18pm
  
  mirageofher, blunderspublik, Xaser, tenryuu, TristEndo, Jakerson, raphaelgoulart and Modus Ponens liēkd this
sing out of tune a bunch of times and you've got yourself a very wide chorus effect
 
 
131785
Level 23 Chipist
YQN
 
 
 
post #131785 :: 2020.12.02 12:34pm
i dislike slight autotune as much as obvious autotune. i find it uncanny when a singer is too much in tune.
 
 
132044
Level 16 Grafxicist
Blue_Christmas
 
 
post #132044 :: 2020.12.05 10:07am
  
  Torowin hæitd this
  
  mirageofher and Tilde liēkd this
me @ Michael Buble's perfect pitch
he's definitely a lizard person
 
 
132186
Level 11 Chipist
Osplm
 
 
post #132186 :: 2020.12.07 8:01am :: edit 2020.12.07 12:24pm
I was programm d for this BateL

I got one, but idk i can't submit this

Its a nice day put even tbough its cold. *Star Trek S2E1 thats where im at

"Have the transporter room stand by to beam up the landing party."

karang
 
 
132197
Level 23 Mixist
Zillah
 
 
 
post #132197 :: 2020.12.07 2:01pm
So only voice is allowed? No other sounds?
 
 
133015
Level 19 Mixist
ASIKWUSpulse
 
 
 
post #133015 :: 2020.12.21 7:32am
  
  mirageofher and FamicomForever liēkd this
Is whistling allowed?
 
 
133018
Level 18 Chipist
Modus Ponens
 
 
 
post #133018 :: 2020.12.21 9:16am
  
  mirageofher liēkd this
I'm interpreting this as allowing "all and only sounds you can make with your mouth and no equipment", but it sounds like it's cool to make prudent use of tasteful amounts of reverb added in post-production.
 
 
133428
Level 13 Chipist
Torowin
 
 
post #133428 :: 2020.12.27 5:37am :: edit 2021.01.02 8:32am
idk, i think there's something to enjoy about the uncanny-ness from the perfect-pitch-ness brought to the human voice whether through Mad Dog talent/training or "auto-tune".
In the same way that there is something to enjoy about the not-quite-there-ness of digital music and chiptune.

In a similarly powerful yet opposite way there is something to enjoy about the natural out of tune-ness of the human voice in other certain contexts, much like many instruments.

Tho, i do hope pitch-correction is not relied upon and takes away from the strengths of someone's voice.
 
 
133431
Level 20 Mixist
Jessica Robo
 
 
 
post #133431 :: 2020.12.27 6:21am
I am interpreting a cap[p]ella to mean in the style of the chapel. This is a style of music I have performed often, and it is in fact performed and not sequenced.
 
 
133789
Level 7 Chipist
607
 
 
post #133789 :: 2020.12.31 7:15am
Hm, autotune? The idea I was considering doesn't involve singing melodies at all. :P
 
 
133875
Level 16 Grafxicist
Blue_Christmas
 
 
post #133875 :: 2021.01.01 4:50am
Voting seems broken, I can only see the numbers
 
 
133877
Level 30 Chipist
kleeder
 
 
 
post #133877 :: 2021.01.01 5:17am
voting cats are missing, will be fixed soon
 
 
134389
Level 30 Chipist
kleeder
 
 
 
post #134389 :: 2021.01.10 1:26pm
Average Score: 23.489
 
 
134408
Level 20 Mixist
FamicomForever
 
 
 
post #134408 :: 2021.01.10 9:07pm
  
  Jessica Robo, kleeder and amelia liēkd this
I WON THIS MAJOR, BY ALOT!
 
 
134410
Level 30 Chipist
kleeder
 
 
 
post #134410 :: 2021.01.10 9:28pm
  
  amelia and FamicomForever liēkd this
we shouldve stopped the vote when all the all7 votes on ur entry were in, right..
 
 
134430
Level 23 Chipist
irrlicht project
 
 
 
post #134430 :: 2021.01.11 9:37am
  
  Jessica Robo, FamicomForever and kleeder liēkd this
Just wanted to say I really enjoyed this battle. Fantastic entries all around. I hope we do this again some time.
 
 

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