idea: move some gfx formats to pixelist
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154445
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post #154445 :: 2022.04.02 4:35am
  
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heya

since pixel got removed from ohbs, there is no way to get pixelist points via ohbs, because the only two formats giving pixel points (pixel and chipbattleart) are both major-only now.

im in support for keeping both formats ohb-blocked, but i also think it wld be cool if people were able to get pixel points from ohbing.

ansi art and also teletext are very pixel-based. i think they fit way better as pixel-formats rather than gfxist formats.
ascii is debatable, but shld belong to pixelist too imo

and because arguing about "the aesthetic of" seems to be exhausting nowadays, i wld say "formats aiming for older, more limited hardware/systems should go into pixelist" seems like a much better way to classify a format into one or another format type.
 
 
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post #154453 :: 2022.04.02 5:35am
  
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i like the idea of getting pixelist points via OHB and, as a tangent the idea of earning pixelist points setting a 25 boons custom flag
 
 
157735
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post #157735 :: 2022.06.26 11:36pm
  
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bunp

2 cents on the matter: i don't really care all that much about it, one way or another it's just making art which is the point behind both of the classes. i will say tho that it makes more sense for ansi and teletext to be in pixelist with users' reliance on block art in both formats (myself included) so mb a type change is in order when talking abt those 2? ascii i will argue against since it doesn't rely on blockart so much if at all, but again art is art pal ✌✌✌
 
 
157736
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nitrofurano
 
 
 
post #157736 :: 2022.06.27 12:24am
maybe ascii format as well? some of my entries are derived from xpm files during the elaboration process
 
 
157752
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tennisers
 
 
 
post #157752 :: 2022.06.27 11:42am
  
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ascii would not fit into "pixelist" but if "pixelist' was renamed to "retroGraphicist" then it would make more sense
 
 
157753
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roz
 
 
 
post #157753 :: 2022.06.27 3:05pm
ascii should be under 'textist' if ever that comes around..
 
 
157756
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post #157756 :: 2022.06.27 4:34pm
It would probably make more sense to move ascii, ansi and teletext into a sort of text mode based class

They all share the same sort of restrictions and usage: a canvas with a set amount of lines that consists of mostly text based characters and a few graphic ones
 
 
157757
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post #157757 :: 2022.06.27 4:44pm
iunno i feel like having them in their own class would overcomplicate things? i mean don't get me wrong, they would fit in a class of their own as much as the pixel-based ones do, i think it'd just be one class too much for me. hell, the pixelist class i think is a little overspecific to be it's own thing, that's mainly why i think classes like ansi and teletext (especially the latter since block art there is much more fluid than ansi) should be in pixelist

tho i really can't complain as there is much reason for ansi, ascii, etc, to be in its own class. if anything, this could lead to a writing format in the future but idk if there are many people clamoring for it now; that and past incidents but that's like nearly a decade ago so i feel like that's not as much of a factor as is demand
 
 
157762
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post #157762 :: 2022.06.27 8:22pm
  
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ascii is for art, not literature. its more gfxist than text
 
 
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157765
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big lumby
 
 
 
post #157765 :: 2022.06.27 10:42pm
  
  kleeder hæitd this
...here's a question.

when did i say ascii was for literature??
 
 
157767
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kleeder
 
 
 
post #157767 :: 2022.06.28 1:07am
When did i say i was replying to your comment?
 
 
157820
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Kot
 
 
post #157820 :: 2022.06.30 7:56am
I agree with the sentiment above and at the beginning of this thread
 
 
157853
Level 24 Chipist
YQN
 
 
 
post #157853 :: 2022.07.01 5:14am
i personally think formats should belong to the classes they correspond to. ansi & teletext as pixel sounds too far-fetched to me.
 
 
157865
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kleeder
 
 
 
post #157865 :: 2022.07.01 11:19am
wat
 
 
157867
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post #157867 :: 2022.07.01 12:28pm
  
  kleeder hæitd this
if that wat is at YQN: i interpret YQN conveying ansi and teletext should stay as grafxicist formats, and, that them giving pixel class points is too far-fetched; is so what you mean, YQN?
 
 
157870
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kleeder
 
 
 
post #157870 :: 2022.07.01 3:06pm :: edit 2022.07.01 3:06pm
youre literally just repeating the post.
still wat?
how is that far-fetched. especially when following the criteria i gave in my initial post? how wld you, yqn, classify formats like wildchip as chipist, if not far-fetched. how is anything on botb NOT far-fetched, or how does it matter how SPECIFIC a format matches its class. the reason i suggested this is not because the exact definition of teletext and ansi is "pixelart style formats" , but because we are missing an opportunity to achieve pixelist points at ALL over xhbs atm, and was showing an uncomplicated way out of this by turning formats into this class by using the criteria "image format for an (old) system that has specific restrictions, like size, palette, etc

"sounds too far-fetched to me"
wat?

simply asking for some more ... insight... into your argument, so that an actual discussion is possible, otherwise its a pointless post.
 
 
157873
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post #157873 :: 2022.07.01 5:45pm :: edit 2022.07.01 7:56pm
  
  kleeder liēkd this
well, excuuuu (edit: u * 287, U * 266, interleaved in bunches) uuuuuse me, kleeder! I think ansi and, how i think teletext works, relates to my concept of pixel oriented formats, as a n dimensional screen buffer/graphic data stream; i could understand both ansi and teletext classes being swapped to pixelist
 
 
157874
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kleeder
 
 
 
post #157874 :: 2022.07.01 11:51pm
youre good, but i was asking yqn
 
 
157875
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post #157875 :: 2022.07.02 12:57am
  
  kleeder liēkd this
raaaaaAAHHH!
 
 

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