Format Idea: Verse
BotB Academy Bug Reports and Feature Requests
 
 
150352
Level 17 Chipist
roz
 
 
 
post #150352 :: 2021.12.26 3:39pm :: edit 2022.08.05 8:33am
  
  Bravoman, numbers, OminPigeonMaster, dotmid, mirageofher, nitrofurano, damifortune, Oli and kfaraday liēkd this
ed. this thread has since widened in scope. join the text format guerrilla campaign today!

BotB deserves a text-based format! Verse would be for traditional and modern poetry, lyrics, and even epic narrative poems.

The site already supports .txt entries (see ascii) and it would be fun for BotBrs to stretch a totally different set of creative muscles.

But… what class would it be?
 
 
150353
Level 24 Mixist
doctorn0gloff
 
 
 
post #150353 :: 2021.12.26 3:47pm
  
  mirageofher, nitrofurano, argarak, kfaraday and roz liēkd this
the ascii format used to allow creative writing, but see that the lyceum article now states that due to certain 'unsavory incidents', literature is now strictly not allowed. I can't recall on the spot the exact 'unsavory incident' that led to it so i leave that research to you, but it's.. kind of spicy.

However! I do think that other than prose, a subgenre of Human Voice for lyrical and verse form writing would be nice, if anything just to add wholesome musical value to whatever mischievous message people may conjure up
 
 
150354
Level 31 Chipist
kleeder
 
 
 
post #150354 :: 2021.12.26 4:06pm
  
  pusakal, Viraxor, Dolce, mirageofher, nitrofurano, Webriprob, damifortune, roz and doctorn0gloff liēkd this
i personally dont see why we shld still stay away from literature because some silly kids in 2013/14 used to upload porn fanfictions about botbrs. this can simply be moderated and communicated well. people also dont submit ansi porn all the time or draw genitals etc etc

i still think ascii shld be for art only because it gives gfxist points, not writist points. but im not against having a new point class with new formats. i feel like the community is a little more grown up now~
 
 
150355
Level 17 Chipist
roz
 
 
 
post #150355 :: 2021.12.26 4:08pm
  
  Viraxor, mirageofher, nitrofurano, doctorn0gloff and kleeder liēkd this
ah, i had already read that on the ascii article… i think i saw somewhere it was to do with people writing explicit fanfic about other BotBrs. since that didn’t kill the entire ascii format though i thought it must be something about long-form prose specifically, rather than the entire concept of text entries.

that’s what got me thinking about how to implement some kind of creative writing format without the potential for…that kind of stuff.

with heavy-handed “no explicit nsfw” moderation it could mayb work? or flies too close to the sun. who knowse.

also- why did i write that OP in sentence case??? must have left my brain in reddit mode…
 
 
150356
Level 9 Playa
Oli
 
 
post #150356 :: 2021.12.26 4:22pm
  
  Viraxor, OminPigeonMaster, mirageofher, nitrofurano and roz liēkd this
YES! I am feeling desire to read at entries of a dragon themed bitpack verse format battle!
 
 
150358
Level 29 Mixist
tennisers
 
 
 
post #150358 :: 2021.12.26 4:58pm
  
  Viraxor, mirageofher, nitrofurano, Xaser and roz liēkd this
here is the specific "unsavory incident" https://battleofthebits.org/arena/Battle/1279
 
 
150359
Level 29 Chipist
damifortune
 
 
 
post #150359 :: 2021.12.26 5:17pm
  
  nitrofurano, Oli and roz liēkd this
i actually would prefer an over-arching text format that could include prose as well, so we could do XHB short story battles and the like. i was considering hosting "storytelling" battles with vocal as the format, but text would be much more accessible (that way you don't have to both write and record, or if you can't/don't want to record...)

regardless i'm very supportive of this idea, just think expanding the concept would be prudent!
 
 
150360
Level 17 Chipist
roz
 
 
 
post #150360 :: 2021.12.26 5:42pm :: edit 2021.12.26 5:43pm
  
  Viraxor, Dolce, mirageofher, nitrofurano and Oli liēkd this
dami since the verse format would necessitate the creation of a new “writist” class, it could act as a testbed for more text formats such as “fiction”, “non-fiction”, “alltext” (just throwing out ideas here). like a probation period to prove the community is mature enough to handle that kind of power…
 
 
150362
Level 29 Chipist
damifortune
 
 
 
post #150362 :: 2021.12.26 7:23pm :: edit 2021.12.26 7:26pm
  
  Viraxor, Dolce, mirageofher, nitrofurano and now_its_dark liēkd this
i guess what i'm proposing is "alltext" as a starter and then if it ends up being a popular style of battle here, other more specific formats could follow

edit: also thinking about file formats and what should be allowed and disallowed... some level of word processor formatting might be nice so i was thinking .txt .rtf .doc .docx
 
 
150363
Level 31 Chipist
kleeder
 
 
 
post #150363 :: 2021.12.26 8:31pm
  
  Viraxor, damifortune, roz and nitrofurano liēkd this
doc(x) is for paid microsoft office stuff right? rather make it openoffice odt instead. ;D

idk if we rly need more than one format for this. wld go too far into graphic design again imo.
raw text is raw text. writing. nothing else needed, if u ask me-
 
 
150365
Level 24 Mixist
doctorn0gloff
 
 
 
post #150365 :: 2021.12.26 9:06pm
  
  mirageofher, nitrofurano and kleeder liēkd this
(if we do want to allow some markup in the text (we probably don't) it should just be firki imo)
 
 
150366
Level 31 Chipist
kleeder
 
 
 
post #150366 :: 2021.12.26 9:48pm
  
  mirageofher and nitrofurano liēkd this
 
 
150371
Level 23 Pedagogist
ViLXDRYAD
 
 
 
post #150371 :: 2021.12.27 12:34am :: edit 2021.12.27 3:54am
HTML5 offers a set of formatting tools. too.

Text-only without format, for, sounds good to me.
 
 
150382
Level 29 Chipist
damifortune
 
 
 
post #150382 :: 2021.12.27 7:24am :: edit 2021.12.27 7:25am
  
  sulkaritari and Oli liēkd this
i guess i'm just thinking about text-decorations like italics, bold, strikethru etc, and easier access to stuff like em dashes, text-align and other word processor formatting things. i would prefer them if i were writing a short story, and it's possible to push them to the forefront if you're trying to write something postmodern :D (verse OR prose!!)

i suppose i don't feel super strongly about it being more than plaintext, but if the format is intended to encompass "alltext" it's worth considering. it's cool either way!

i figured .doc and .docx were easy to manage at this point with open or libre office or google drive but if they're actually still gated in some way then i wouldn't want them included either
 
 
150384
Level 31 Chipist
kleeder
 
 
 
post #150384 :: 2021.12.27 7:56am
  
  nitrofurano, mirageofher, roz and damifortune liēkd this
problem with docx , i think, still is that it looks different everytime u load it in a different editor. even if its just by a few pixels of text or image placements etc.. rly annoying...
or was this fixed in the past few years where i only did .tex stuff


.................

SPEAKING OF LATEX
 
 
150385
Level 9 Playa
Oli
 
 
post #150385 :: 2021.12.27 8:22am :: edit 2021.12.27 10:29am
  
  nitrofurano liēkd this
I can benefit from participating on LaTeX
format battles!
 
 
150387
Level 29 Chipist
damifortune
 
 
 
post #150387 :: 2021.12.27 8:54am
i haven't used .docx in quite some time, but if that has been the case in the past that's tentatively a good reason to leave just that one off the list
 
 
150588
Level 23 Pedagogist
ViLXDRYAD
 
 
 
post #150588 :: 2022.01.02 4:55pm :: edit 2022.01.02 5:24pm
  
  roz liēkd this
I am feeling desire to write right now, and the format proposed on this thread came to my mind, soon after I began to: I am finding myself looking forward to witness x hour competitons of, and participate in.
 
 
150590
Level 28 Chipist
Jangler
 
 
 
post #150590 :: 2022.01.02 6:41pm
  
  big lumby liēkd this
docx and rtf have essentially the same problems
 
 
150594
Level 13 Mixist
beek
 
 
post #150594 :: 2022.01.03 11:10am
  
  roz, damifortune and Oli liēkd this
i like the idea !!!1
 
 
158993
Level 29 Chipist
damifortune
 
 
 
post #158993 :: 2022.08.03 7:48am
  
  roz and kilowatt64 liēkd this
the dawn of the plaintext format is peeking out over the horizon...
 
 
159065
Level 10 Chipist
queddd
 
 
post #159065 :: 2022.08.04 4:35pm
  
  roz liēkd this
I think this should be made
 
 
159079
Level 30 Chipist
TristEndo
 
 
 
post #159079 :: 2022.08.04 9:25pm
  
  Viraxor and roz liēkd this
pdf? *hides
 
 
159090
Level 17 Chipist
roz
 
 
 
post #159090 :: 2022.08.05 8:16am
  
  Bravoman, damifortune and sethdonut liēkd this
hear ye, year ye

the people want alltext
 
 
159154
Level 9 Mixist
pusakal
 
 
post #159154 :: 2022.08.06 6:44am
  
  Bravoman, roz and damifortune liēkd this
I'm also in favor of this! Let the battle of the biterature exist >:00
 
 
159212
Level 14 Chipist
Bravoman
 
 
post #159212 :: 2022.08.07 10:12am
  
  roz liēkd this
I could imagine this being so cool in XHBs where there's a prompt and seeing other people's submissions and what they write. Especially when hosting. I'm all for this format.
 
 
159279
Level 17 Pixelist
kilowatt64
 
 
 
post #159279 :: 2022.08.08 3:41pm :: edit 2022.08.08 3:42pm
Would love this! BotB poetry, pretty please. (Although this could be battled lots of interesting ways)
 
 

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