Fri Aug 10 02:35:08 2012 -
<02:35:23 null1024> deflemask is marred by a somewhat meh user interface and completely marred by various bugs
<02:35:48 null1024> not being able to hear some channels for no reason seriously interferes with the tracking process
<02:35:49 kfaraday> i always have no idea what i am doing with deflemask
<02:36:07 null1024> also, I love how Touhou 5's music room has all the music
<02:36:23 null1024> ZUN made better FM music
<02:36:24 KungFuFurby> As in a complete soundtrack, right?
<02:36:39 null1024> KungFuFurby: all the music from itself and previous touhou games
<02:36:47 KungFuFurby> Oh. Oh my.
<02:36:54 kfaraday> deflemask is marred somewhat by giving me a near-heart attack with that fucking opening screen
<02:36:59 Dennis> Delek doesn't want to use the Windows API for Deflemask, because it is "a shit". The irony.
<02:37:41 CaptBeard> What, so we're using Deflemask?
<02:37:46 null1024> CaptBeard: you could
<02:37:50 Dennis> He's doing a really great job making a tracker that supports various systems though.
<02:38:25 Dennis> You can use: Deflemask, VGM music maker, it2vgm, probably XPMCK
<02:38:47 Dennis> I hate Deflemask's opening screen.
<02:38:52 KungFuFurby> Does IDLE take arguments?
<02:39:08 null1024> KungFuFurby: run it2vgm from the commandline
<02:39:21 null1024> IDLE brings forth only pain and destruction
<02:39:26 null1024> it is the way of the beast
<02:39:50 KungFuFurby> Can't do that. I get a permission denied message.
<02:40:06 chipchampion> mod2psg
<02:40:18 Dennis> Okay, I am going to use Deflemask for this compo. I will give it a chance! :)
<02:40:47 Dennis> Oh yeah, there's mod2psg2 too
<02:41:00 Dennis> But people don't seem to be very happy about that generally.
<02:44:23 chunter> Does ant1 play guitar or did he just get samples?
<02:44:42 shawn> doesn't matter ahaha
<02:44:44 shawn> probably both!
<02:44:47 shawn> i mean i don't always play it
<02:45:05 shawn> i sort of rested on my laurels with some neatly sampled guitar stuff for a bit
<02:45:55 LoneStar> http://i49.tinypic.com/11avpra.gif
<02:46:07 LoneStar> herp-a-derp-a-herp-a-derp-a-herp-a-derp
<02:46:09 chunter> there are advantages to using samples... but anyway
<02:46:27 LoneStar> where is mister strobe
<02:46:56 Dennis> On vacation :D
<02:46:59 LoneStar> :O
<02:47:05 LoneStar> vaccination
<02:47:19 shawn> I'm releasing a remix ep tonight of songs by dudes like norrin radd, yerzmyey, amongst others
<02:47:22 shawn> its gonna be badass
<02:47:27 LoneStar> :O
<02:47:35 CaptBeard> Darn it, internet went out for a bit
<02:47:37 shawn> I'm remastering it now
<02:47:38 kfaraday> how do i do volume
<02:47:50 kfaraday> i have no clue
<02:47:55 chunter> cool
<02:48:09 CaptBeard> I may or may not enter this
<02:48:14 CaptBeard> Deflemask is something annoying
<02:48:20 Dennis> Which tracker are you using, kfaraday?
<02:48:29 kfaraday> defffflmask
<02:48:42 Dennis> I still have to figure that out as well. :)
<02:48:55 kfaraday> whoo
<02:49:11 Dennis> We should give Delek a big letter of recommendations signed by all of us.
<02:49:22 Dennis> One of them being the option to remove that intro jingle
<02:49:36 kfaraday> please steal famitracker's entire format in the future, ps: pass this along to all of your friends
<02:49:54 CaptBeard> just copy and paste famitracker's ui code
<02:49:59 kfaraday> yeah seriously
<02:50:07 kfaraday> oh i got two channels to play
<02:50:11 kfaraday> i can't get this one to though
<02:50:49 KungFuFurby> Got it working, but via the commandline after calling pythonw.
<02:51:06 Dennis> \:D/
<02:51:16 kfaraday> oh i figured it out
<02:51:24 kfaraday> i didn't have a volume setting on one of the instruments]
<02:51:30 kfaraday> even though it was playing jsut fine when i put it down
<02:51:31 kfaraday> bahaha
<02:52:31 Dennis> Don't open Deflemask when you got your volume turned up high
<02:52:59 Dennis> Or the intro jingle will scare the hell out of you
<02:53:22 CaptBeard> Huh, this UI actually isn't hard to use at all
<02:53:25 CaptBeard> :>
<02:53:29 CaptBeard> I think I got it
<02:53:39 GreaseMonkey> eheh
<02:56:02 Dennis> Hmm
<02:57:58 kfaraday> !ohc
<02:59:33 kfaraday> ugh
<02:59:37 kfaraday> now channel three doesn't play
<02:59:54 null1024> is out *
<03:00:03 null1024> this bass thing is killing me
<03:00:39 CaptBeard> I'll probably redo "burntpancakes.nsf" for this one
<03:00:57 CaptBeard> just because I only have a few song ideas in my head, and I'm trying to save them for summerchip nsf
<03:01:47 Dennis> kfaraday, if you use periodic noise you can't use channel 3 as long as periodic noise is playing I think.
<03:01:53 Dennis> That is a limitation of teh chip actually.
<03:02:03 kfaraday> well fuck
<03:02:08 null1024> Dennis: only if you pitch the periodic noise
<03:02:16 Dennis> Yeah, I forgot to mention. :D
<03:02:18 GreaseMonkey> um
<03:02:31 null1024> and that's because it takes the frequency from channel 3
<03:02:38 GreaseMonkey> there are 3 pitches you can use for periodic or white noise which don't involve losing the 3rd channel
<03:02:55 kfaraday> let's hear it
<03:03:08 LoneStar> lol that sounds so technically silly
<03:05:04 Dennis> !ohc
<03:06:55 CaptBeard> Deflemask isn't...horrible
<03:07:00 CaptBeard> but octave 1 and 0 are glitched
<03:07:13 kfaraday> probably b.c. of the chip
<03:07:18 LoneStar> derplemask
<03:08:04 CaptBeard> what is an STD chip
<03:08:07 CaptBeard> instrument
<03:08:15 CaptBeard> am i going to get a disease
<03:08:24 CaptBeard> oh man i don't want an std, i'm still a virgin
<03:08:24 chunter> that's why you gotta cover it
<03:08:24 LoneStar> sexually transmitted disease chip :O
<03:08:27 CaptBeard> what will my parents think
<03:08:54 LoneStar> mom will be like ermahgerd and dad will be like fuck yeah son
<03:08:59 LoneStar> :D
<03:09:23 CaptBeard> how do i noise in deflemask
<03:12:05 GreaseMonkey> CaptBeard: use the 20xy effect to select the mode
<03:12:51 kfaraday> still waiting for those notes bro
<03:14:07 CaptBeard> ugh the mask in the tracker is starting to creep me out
<03:15:07 Dennis> So uhh, how do I add a note off in Deflemask?
<03:15:13 Dennis> I can't find it in the manual. :(
<03:15:24 kfaraday> i've just been setting the volume to 0 lol
<03:15:30 kfaraday> then putting it on F whenever i get a next note
<03:16:09 Dennis> Oh wait
<03:16:13 Dennis> Found it :)
<03:16:14 Dennis> Tab
<03:18:32 CaptBeard> Same
<03:18:49 CaptBeard> But uh, I think I'm out, I just can't produce fast enough to make anything good in this tracker
<03:19:10 CaptBeard> I can enter what I have but there's no drums and it's two patterns long
<03:19:29 CaptBeard> if you get in risk of not enough people entering then I'll put it in
<03:20:59 GreaseMonkey> !ohc
<03:21:58 Dennis> Hmm
<03:22:10 null1024> <CaptBeard> oh man i don't want an std, i'm still a virgin -- start tracking with a condom
<03:22:11 null1024> ;3
<03:22:21 Dennis> Arpeggio macros in Deflemask can't go above 12? :(
<03:24:56 LoneStar> THAT IS WHY REAL MUSICIANS USE REAL INSTRUMENTS; AND MORE THAN ONE OF THEM
<03:25:02 LoneStar> [/rant]
<03:25:19 Dennis> Also, arpeggio macros that are long get horribly misaligned with the numbers below them.
<03:25:45 CaptBeard> Dad's going to paint my room
<03:25:48 CaptBeard> Catch ya later ;3
<03:26:07 LoneStar> how old are you?
<03:26:10 LoneStar> 6?
<03:26:18 LoneStar> paint the room yourself! XD
<03:27:35 CaptBeard> Hey, now, I'd love to do that
<03:27:43 CaptBeard> But my parents love to...well, parent me, I guess.
<03:28:05 Dennis> Beard, don't forget to submit if I don't have enough entries. ;_;
<03:28:15 kfaraday> !ohc
<03:28:26 CaptBeard> I'll just do it now
<03:28:29 CaptBeard> just in case
<03:28:33 Dennis> Great. :D
<03:29:16 CaptBeard> Alright, catch ya later, I already know I get last place
<03:29:32 CaptBeard> but i did it 4 u, deenis
<03:30:10 Jangler> if you already got a dennis don' cut it off! jes' keep on it
<03:30:10 CaptBeard> ...poof
<03:30:18 CaptBeard> also props to jangler for that
<03:31:43 GreaseMonkey> !ohc
<03:32:43 Jangler> marriage props
<03:36:12 kfaraday> how do i export lol
<03:37:20 kfaraday> seriously how uhh
<03:37:24 kfaraday> how the fuck do i save lol
<03:37:25 Dennis> Disk op -> S. VGM
<03:37:28 kfaraday> ah ah
<03:38:49 Dennis> DefleMask refuses to copy and paste more than 1 column properly. ;(
<03:39:36 GreaseMonkey> testing the .vgm now
<03:39:45 Jangler> deflemask tries its best to do its worst
<03:40:17 GreaseMonkey> i'm a bit worried i subliminally covered something in an attempt to pastiche someone
<03:41:01 KungFuFurby> !ohc
<03:41:10 GreaseMonkey> MASS INFLUX ENTRIES
<03:41:34 GreaseMonkey> pity i lack a good .vgm player :(
<03:41:44 Jangler> pastiche me do it just try
<03:42:02 KungFuFurby> I just simply use the same player that I have used for the .spc files.
<03:42:18 KungFuFurby> Unless it is not implemented, I do the same for .nsf.
<03:42:38 null1024> just uses whatever Audacious uses *
<03:42:40 GreaseMonkey> tip, avoid audiooverload for .vgm files, unless you know damn sure it doesn't use periodic noise
<03:42:48 null1024> audio overload is terrible for all formats
<03:42:52 GreaseMonkey> wonders where the fuck the appropriate plugin went for Audacious *
<03:43:03 GreaseMonkey> my old laptop has the right plugin, my new laptop doesn't
<03:43:05 KungFuFurby> I don't use Audio Overload... but I do use Game Music Box.
<03:43:07 null1024> hrm
<03:43:36 GreaseMonkey> i think i have game music emu
<03:43:44 Jangler> urgh i hate audio overload
<03:44:04 GreaseMonkey> tbqh i think i covered something i did on the piano
<03:44:14 KungFuFurby> Did a quick test in Audio Overload and they are dead wrong with periodic noise.
<03:44:19 chipchampion> audio overlod fucks up volumes and periodic tuning
<03:44:26 GreaseMonkey> oh yay GME works
<03:44:32 null1024> audio overload breaks everything
<03:44:38 chipchampion> mod2psg import will work
<03:44:41 null1024> I've found issues in almost all the things it plays
<03:44:43 GreaseMonkey> KungFuFurby: i think it's because it assumes a 15-bit LFSR as in the original SN76489
<03:45:11 GreaseMonkey> any late entries?
<03:46:05 kfaraday> doesn't seem so
<03:46:32 KungFuFurby> I'm voting.
<03:46:38 GreaseMonkey> oh hmm, it seems VGM 1.60 has some form of compression... either that or people suck at SMS :P
<03:47:16 Jangler> ha
<03:47:24 GreaseMonkey> OR i suck at packing stuff efficiently into 1.50 files
<03:48:11 kfaraday> "foobar2000 has crashed" god damnit
<03:48:15 GreaseMonkey> i think i found null's entry, if so, null probably wasn't tired
<03:48:19 kfaraday> this has happened like fifteen times
<03:48:28 kfaraday> time to reinstall
<03:48:55 Dennis> Yeah, Deflemask exports in VGM 1.60, which does not work in foobar. :D
<03:49:07 KungFuFurby> It works OK over here on my Mac.
<03:49:10 kfaraday> no it has been crashing like all day yesterday
<03:49:12 kfaraday> and today
<03:49:21 GreaseMonkey> one almost seems like a cover but fuck it
<03:49:36 kfaraday> yeah don't make that mistake again
<03:49:37 kfaraday> lol
<03:50:10 GreaseMonkey> ¡ShaveD!
<03:50:15 GreaseMonkey> oh crap, late entry
<03:50:50 kfaraday> ok time to actually listen to this
<03:51:04 GreaseMonkey> saved again
<03:51:45 null1024> GreaseMonkey: I didn't enter ;3
<03:51:50 GreaseMonkey> aww
<03:52:41 kfaraday> lmao where have i heard langangbang from
<03:53:06 kfaraday> it is an infectious little thing
<03:55:45 Dennis> Everyone who wanted to vote has voted? :D
<03:56:00 KungFuFurby> I voted.
<03:56:11 kfaraday> yea i'm done
<03:56:32 GreaseMonkey> voted
<03:57:31 Dennis> 01,00 _03,00o07,00<04,00 TEH WINNERZ
<03:57:32 Dennis> 01,00\_)00,00
<03:57:45 KungFuFurby> Maybe I'll get a bronze.
<03:57:52 GreaseMonkey> maybe i'll get a tincan
<03:57:56 KungFuFurby> Or at least a tin can.
<03:58:14 chipchampion> everyone is a winner at botb
<03:58:29 Dennis> RANK 6) Beard - langangbang.vgm - score 15.443 <-- You submitted something yay!
<03:58:34 KungFuFurby> Yeah, it doesn't matter whether you win or lose, it's how you play the game.
<03:58:46 chipchampion> try your best to do your worst
<03:58:47 Dennis> RANK 5) kfaraday - fuck you deflemask.vgm - score 20.701 <-- Your track was hilarious, but not everybody agreed. ;(
<03:58:52 GreaseMonkey> ...which happens to be a sega master system game
<03:58:55 null1024> <chipchampion> try your best to do your worst -- botb motto
<03:58:56 null1024> ;3
<03:59:01 Jangler> i actually hate chipmusic i just like 16x16 pictures of gold medals
<03:59:10 null1024> Jangler: that's the spirit
<03:59:11 Dennis> RANK 4) KungFuFurby - a whole different kind of retro.vgm - score 22.567 <-- Final fantasy!
<03:59:23 Dennis> RANK 3) iamgreaser - transcendental_phantasm.vgm - score 22.727 <-- This sounded like proper game music!
<03:59:35 KungFuFurby> That was an unintentional reference...
<03:59:38 GreaseMonkey> i was trying to parody zun's style
<03:59:40 chipchampion> 0___x
<03:59:41 Dennis> RANK 2) Slimeball - lol i am late sorry.vgm - score 23.365 <-- Did I really deserve this high? ;(
<04:00:02 KungFuFurby> Who won? Hmm...
<04:00:08 Jangler> zun zun zuwa vaeu
<04:00:10 Dennis> RANK 1) Chip Champion - happyfuntimes.vgm - score 27.517 <--- 0_______x your tune rocked, but please don't hit those out-of-tune high notes again. :)
<04:00:11 chipchampion> jangler won
<04:00:15 Jangler> i won
<04:00:20 kfaraday> congrats jangler!!!
<04:00:24 Jangler> thanks guys
<04:00:28 kfaraday> another compo victory :)
<04:00:31 KungFuFurby> Congratulations chipchampion!
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