<20:21:41 boomlinde> go go go go
<20:21:53 boomlinde> why isnät it saying anything
<20:22:00 boomlinde> it started now anyhow
<20:22:01 spirit-hippo> i think the bot is broke
<20:22:05 boomlinde> damnit
<20:22:08 spirit-hippo> !ohc
<20:22:17 easterbunny> Hrm is it just an ormal ohc
<20:22:24 spirit-hippo> a normal ohc
<20:22:26 spirit-hippo> yes
<20:22:48 Svetlana> wow this is the worst pack ever
<20:22:52 Svetlana> congratulations
<20:23:00 boomlinde> hahaha
<20:23:28 boomlinde> it's a good pack
<20:23:34 Svetlana> it's not
<20:23:58 boomlinde> you just don't understand it, that's all
<20:29:05 b-bO__Obz> lalalalala
<20:29:15 Svetlana> [15:14] <Svetlana> botb needs a compo length argument
<20:29:16 Svetlana> [15:15] <Svetlana> compo time in minutes 10-120 default 60
<20:30:14 b-bO__Obz> hah
<20:30:20 b-bO__Obz> that's currently a sysop only feature
<20:30:28 b-bO__Obz> if it's not 1 hour then it's not an OHB
<20:30:41 b-bO__Obz> so 120 minutes should be a 2HB
<20:30:59 Svetlana> ok
<20:31:06 Svetlana> does that mean you will implement it
<20:31:10 b-bO__Obz> plus, if we have longer compose then there should be more time to get ready, or announce
<20:36:33 Svetlana> ok
<20:36:33 Svetlana> does that mean you will implement it
<20:38:23 b-bO__Obz> sry @ work
<20:38:25 b-bO__Obz> yes, some day
<20:38:34 b-bO__Obz> still want to refactor the battle engine
<20:38:45 b-bO__Obz> which i think is 2 days work minimum
<20:41:26 boomlinde> !ohc
<20:41:59 b-bO__Obz> and that's just to do the minimum to get all current battle styles running from the same code
<20:42:09 Strobe> What went wrong when the OHC started?
<20:42:10 Strobe> or rather, before the OHC started
<20:42:36 b-bO__Obz> there's a lot of other things that can be done to the battle engine
<20:42:48 spirit-hippo> !ohc
<20:45:26 b-bO__Obz> i see a strobe
<20:45:36 easterbunny> modplug thinks the instrument menu deserves focus but it doesn't
<20:45:44 Strobe> i was trying to figure out why someone said the bot was broken :o
<20:46:02 Strobe> when there is nothing wrong except that Svetlana submitted an entry before the compo started
<20:46:04 b-bO__Obz> http://battleofthebits.org/academy/GroupThread/3452/!log.stop stops chat log for all running OHBs/ <-- that maybe?
<20:46:07 TMAnna> http://scenes.at/lyz1ib (URL by b-bO__Obz)
<20:46:19 Strobe> are there 2 OHCs running now?
<20:46:27 b-bO__Obz> submitted before it started? :U
<20:46:31 chipchampion> who is strobe
<20:46:31 b-bO__Obz> fan that sux
<20:46:41 b-bO__Obz> fan != fak
<20:46:46 Wing> chipchampion, a fat bastard
<20:46:53 Strobe> :o
<20:46:56 Wing> :)
<20:47:01 b-bO__Obz> no, there are two battles :P
<20:47:03 chipchampion> chubbby chubs
<20:47:08 b-bO__Obz> lool
<20:47:55 b-bO__Obz> strobe i made the admin krap!!! X|
<20:48:07 b-bO__Obz> i am not 100% lazy
<20:48:11 b-bO__Obz> so shut yer pie hole
<20:48:25 Strobe> b-bO__Obz oh i knew you would do it.
<20:48:31 Strobe> but only after a major disaster
<20:48:36 Strobe> tehe
<20:48:45 Strobe> so you are a good boy!
<20:49:30 b-bO__Obz> heh
<20:49:36 b-bO__Obz> 10 hours yesterday!! :X
<20:49:43 boomlinde> !ohc
<20:49:45 Strobe> and it paid off!
<20:49:54 Strobe> since now we dont have a spam problem any longer
<20:50:06 b-bO__Obz> well, for now
<20:52:16 b-bO__Obz> i guess i should do some work while i'm at work today :X
<20:53:03 Cantide> i did almost nothing at work today :D
<20:53:05 Cantide> it was great
<20:53:29 Cantide> then again, hobbling around like an old man because i pulled a muscle in my lower back was not so great ,_,
<20:56:24 b-bO__Obz> reminds me of when i had a hernia at the book factory
<20:56:34 b-bO__Obz> takes you the whole lunch break just to get to the lunch room
<20:59:44 Cantide> b-bO__Obz, nasty :D
<21:02:00 boomlinde> !ohc
<21:04:31 easterbunny> oh god my song's so stupid
<21:12:10 Svetlana> 3 4 4 5
<21:12:11 boomlinde> !?!?!?!?!
<21:14:50 Svetlana> adium
<21:15:08 gyms> yes
<21:17:38 Svetlana> b-bO__Obz why can't we set the background color anymore
<21:17:54 Svetlana> the background takes the same color as foreground since a long time ago
<21:17:56 Svetlana> what happened
<21:21:07 boomlinde> mega ohc
<21:21:14 boomlinde> boonz
<21:23:22 boomlinde> hahaha svetlana was it you?
<21:23:59 Svetlana> hahaha Svetlana was it me
<21:24:18 boomlinde> i'm voting 0
<21:24:21 boomlinde> -1
<21:24:35 chocosaurus> !ohc
<21:24:40 chocosaurus> oh no!
<21:24:42 chocosaurus> what happened to the ohc
<21:24:43 Svetlana> ok good luck voting a number you can't vote
<21:24:45 boomlinde> voting times
<21:24:46 Svetlana> Fatal error: Call to a member function IsLoggedIn() on a non-object in /home/puke7/battleofthebits.org/whats/vote_record/vote_record_class.php on line 29
<21:25:18 chocosaurus> bendis
<21:25:35 easterbunny> all 1s for techno
<21:25:50 easterbunny> only joking
<21:26:13 gyms> zanian slip
<21:27:21 chocosaurus> feeler shoots will win i feel
<21:27:35 chipchampion> ride the hose
<21:28:09 boomlinde> man zanznan win
<21:28:36 boomlinde> svetlana: i'm raising all the other scores by one point
<21:28:54 Svetlana> you do that
<21:29:07 boomlinde> hmm, can't submit my vote either
<21:29:09 chocosaurus> what happened
<21:29:20 Svetlana> excellence in website design
<21:29:23 Svetlana> tm
<21:29:44 chocosaurus> no sarcasm BotB really is one of the best websites
<21:31:00 chipchampion> zzzzzzz
<21:31:11 boomlinde> vote fixingtonnnn
<21:32:45 chocosaurus> wow rockin.xm is amazing
<21:32:51 gyms> rockin.xm :)
<21:32:56 easterbunny> rockin.xm!
<21:35:38 boomlinde> stupid voting system
<21:35:43 boomlinde> what do? end voting?
<21:35:52 gyms> did anyone vote at all?
<21:36:04 gyms> i'm stuck, won't let me submit
<21:36:04 easterbunny> it's hard to
<21:36:19 boomlinde> it's broken
<21:36:38 chipchampion> no one got to vote
<21:36:39 chocosaurus> has anyone voted?
<21:36:41 chocosaurus> oh
<21:36:48 chocosaurus> end voting and we all get 0
<21:36:52 chocosaurus> i guess?
<21:36:52 Svetlana> i broke botb :)
<21:37:24 boomlinde> i guess i'll end voting unless someone fixes it in a minute
<21:37:33 chipchampion> i guess linde could try tally voting, then extending voting
<21:37:40 boomlinde> ah
<21:37:46 shawn> everybody comes in at #1
<21:37:56 gyms> 3)feeler shoots
<21:38:07 gyms> 3)bandofbandanas
<21:38:08 Cantide> huh
<21:38:10 boomlinde> can't tally with 0 votes
<21:38:11 Cantide> i should have joined
<21:38:11 gyms> 2)rockin
<21:38:17 gyms> 1)beseechthebutt
<21:38:22 Cantide> would have been the only ohc in which i didn't come last...
<21:38:31 chocosaurus> gyms :(((( rockin didn't win
<21:38:47 gyms> i know, this shit is rigged yo
<21:39:33 chocosaurus> shall i compare thee to a honking goose
<21:39:57 chocosaurus> svetlana how did you break it
<21:40:11 Svetlana> i submitted before the compo started
<21:40:17 easterbunny> >:V=
<21:40:20 chocosaurus> why :o
<21:40:23 Svetlana> >:V=
<21:40:30 Slimeball> :( Can't vote either
<21:41:16 gyms> < :'V=
<21:41:29 boomlinde> sweatlana
<21:41:49 gyms> sweetlavamama
<21:42:22 boomlinde> puke7 plz save us! we can't vote!
<21:42:35 boomlinde> and i can't tally
<21:42:41 boomlinde> because 0 votes
<21:44:23 gyms> i just thought, "it'd be super gay to name your band 'the fray'" and google just showed them to me
<21:44:39 chocosaurus> haha they were kind of a big deal
<21:44:46 gyms> really?
<21:45:08 gyms> youtube
<21:45:25 dorostorov> it'd be good to name your band 'youtube'
<21:45:56 gyms> name my band "lol"
<21:46:00 gyms> or 'epic fail'
<21:46:11 easterbunny> david cameron
<21:46:27 chocosaurus> david cameron
<21:46:38 shawn> dave cameron
<21:46:43 chocosaurus> big david cameron
<21:46:44 dorostorov> da vida cameron
<21:46:45 gyms> david macaroon
<21:46:46 lunar> i'll give you dave cameron
<21:47:00 dorostorov> after dave came ron
<21:47:05 gyms> sig bavid dameron
<21:47:06 lunar> dennis cameron
<21:47:19 chocosaurus> dennis skinner
<21:47:25 chocosaurus> denis menchov
<21:47:29 dorostorov> denis mcshane
<21:47:51 nys> livin la vida cameron
<21:47:55 chocosaurus> New Labrador
<21:48:07 lunar> livin la vida milliband
<21:48:09 gyms> blender neck-cameron
<21:48:24 chocosaurus> lunar ed balls was on television today
<21:48:30 chocosaurus> he said we should borrow more money and spend more
<21:48:44 gyms> toaster foot david
<21:48:54 easterbunny> ed balls a disingenuous tosser
<21:49:01 easterbunny> : o )
<21:49:04 chocosaurus> :)))
<21:49:07 chocosaurus> that's right
<21:49:10 dorostorov> disingenuous toaster
<21:49:33 chocosaurus> ed balls doesn't know about 0
<21:49:35 gyms> disenfranchised coffee roaster
<21:49:44 chocosaurus> Coffee Roaster
<21:50:02 gyms> The Path To School
<21:50:02 dorostorov> borrow more to spend more to beat the national debt
<21:50:11 boomlinde> bend more
<21:50:13 dorostorov> Roffee Coaster
<21:50:18 gyms> The Watering Fountain
<21:50:22 chocosaurus> Roffee Coaster and his Orchestra
<21:50:34 dorostorov> haha
<21:50:39 chocosaurus> dorostorov, i got the cd "songtime" by Milton Keynes Local Programme
<21:50:39 gyms> roffee coaster, haha
<21:50:50 gyms> good
<21:50:53 dorostorov> ah, local music
<21:51:06 dorostorov> what is it like?
<21:51:06 chocosaurus> it's children's music
<21:51:09 dorostorov> ah
<21:51:10 gyms> roffee toffee
<21:51:18 dorostorov> made by/for/both children?
<21:51:26 chocosaurus> it was made by adults and children for children
<21:52:01 dorostorov> is it good?
<21:52:06 chocosaurus> hits like "1, 2, 3, 4, 5 Once I Caught A Fish Alive"
<21:52:08 chocosaurus> it's okay
<21:52:11 chocosaurus> but i'm not a child
<21:52:17 dorostorov> ok
<21:52:25 easterbunny> one, two, ONETWOTHREEFOUR once i caught a fish alive
<21:52:25 dorostorov> I once recorded someone singing that
<21:52:35 chocosaurus> easterbunny :))))
<21:52:36 dorostorov> I didn't release it on a cd though
<21:52:52 chocosaurus> it has a secret track which is the same song as the first track
<21:53:06 chocosaurus> and it has "what's in the bag" three times
<21:53:14 dorostorov> I suppose you wouldn't count in one bar as one two if it was in five
<21:53:15 gyms> what's in the bag?
<21:53:31 easterbunny> what's 'e got in his pocketsies
<21:54:02 gyms> is there a song about frogs on there?
<21:54:11 dorostorov> I am now trying to make it work in 5/4 time
<21:54:23 trough> easterbunny: my ring?
<21:54:31 chocosaurus> where are all the toys AND what's in the bag? what's in the bag, what's in the bag? let's have a look and see what's in the bag? what's this? ooooh, look. somebody's got a red hat and a little bell on his hat. let's count to three and see who's going to jump up. 1, 2, 3, boo!
<21:54:48 Svetlana> what's dylan grillin'
<21:55:11 chocosaurus> the other cds were by Cliff Richard or Take That
<21:55:13 trough> has anyone here tried biscoff?
<21:55:21 chocosaurus> what is biscoff
<21:55:22 dorostorov> ah
<21:55:29 chocosaurus> johnny biscoff, england's finest batsman
<21:55:31 dorostorov> did you try charity shop cd buying?
<21:55:35 chocosaurus> dorostorov yes
<21:55:38 chocosaurus> it was disappointing
<21:55:50 trough> chocosaurus: it is a spread that I am eating on bread
<21:55:56 gyms> Batsman Returned
<21:56:07 chocosaurus> is it beef flavoured?
<21:56:18 trough> I don't think so
<21:56:20 dorostorov> is it biscuit and toffee flavoured
<21:56:23 gyms> is that the hazlenut spread?
<21:56:29 dorostorov> Batsman Returned
<21:56:33 trough> maybe dorostorov
<21:56:42 trough> gyms: no, that's nutella
<21:57:11 Svetlana> turd fergusson
<21:57:20 trough> nutella is about as healthy as icing i think
<21:57:45 dorostorov> chocosaurus, was there anything interesting besides music in the shop?
<21:57:53 chocosaurus> well i bought a shirt
<21:57:55 chocosaurus> but it doesn't fit
<21:58:05 chocosaurus> and i bought two books of recipes for the slow cooker
<21:58:15 trough> this biscoff spread tastes so unhealthy but i can't find out why on the nutrition facts
<21:58:18 gyms> http://bakingbites.com/2011/12/what-is-biscoff-spread/
<21:59:14 gyms> i had a timtam the other day for the first time
<21:59:21 trough> timtam?
<21:59:25 dorostorov> is that like a tamtam?
<21:59:43 trough> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Tam
<22:00:03 gyms> there's this cool thing called the TIMTAM SLAM
<22:00:25 dorostorov> ah, an improvement on the penguin biscuit
<22:00:30 gyms> where you bite off both ends of the biscuit and drink coffee through it
<22:00:31 dorostorov> penguin benguine
<22:00:34 gyms> or some other hot beverage
<22:00:40 gyms> and the coffee melts the inside
<22:00:49 gyms> so you eat it before it falls apart
<22:00:55 gyms> gooey goodness
<22:01:20 dorostorov> messy and fun
<22:01:24 trough> i wonder where i could get some of those
<22:01:33 dorostorov> australia?
<22:01:44 easterbunny> nick cave and the bank siege
<22:01:45 gyms> world market type of place
<22:01:54 gyms> trader joes or something
<22:02:29 dorostorov> stourbridge labour exchange
<22:02:39 gyms> Troth Vader
<22:03:06 dorostorov> Cloth Badger
<22:04:12 gyms> labour exchange
<22:04:15 gyms> ha
<22:04:26 chocosaurus> 1000s of jobs
<22:04:29 chocosaurus> 1000s of jobs for cumbria
<22:04:35 gyms> i was browsing the wikipediers about slubbery
<22:04:44 gyms> apparently it's still a huge problem in chiners
<22:04:54 chocosaurus> what is slubbery
<22:05:02 boomlinde> boing ball
<22:05:14 gyms> slubbery, slabbery, slavery, slobbery
<22:05:19 gyms> tomato tomato
<22:06:18 gyms> the kind where you're born into your great grandasshole's debt and such
<22:06:39 gyms> is the china sort of big deals
<22:06:55 chocosaurus> :( :( :(
<22:07:04 gyms> 18 million peeps
<22:07:08 gyms> the estimate
<22:07:14 gyms> liek damn yo
<22:07:18 chocosaurus> many people
<22:07:26 chocosaurus> all 18 million of them work for apple
<22:07:39 boomlinde> they live in apple county
<22:07:50 boomlinde> they don't get to use apple products
<22:07:54 gyms> also read about feral children
<22:08:04 gyms> and a girl named genie
<22:08:52 gyms> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEnkY2iaKis
<22:08:56 gyms> :'' (
<22:09:53 trough> slubbery sounds slippery and reminds me of slugs
<22:10:39 chocosaurus> kaspar hauser Kaspar Hauser
<22:10:40 boomlinde> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2f/Kaspar_hauser.jpg
<22:10:49 boomlinde> oh haha
<22:11:04 boomlinde> Known for Mysterious origins and untimely death
<22:12:25 gyms> them calves
<22:12:55 boomlinde> where he would repeat only the words "I want to be a cavalryman, as my father was" and "Horse! Horse!"
<22:14:31 gyms> sounds like chocosaurus
<22:15:38 trough> hahahahhahahah boomlinde
<22:15:43 chocosaurus> kaspar hauser looks a lot like a girl i used to know
<22:16:04 boomlinde> haha
<22:16:26 boomlinde> horse1
<22:17:34 boomlinde> i went rock climbing tody, chocosaurus
<22:17:41 chocosaurus> oh great!
<22:17:43 chocosaurus> did you have fun
<22:17:53 boomlinde> my hands and arms are all destroyed
<22:17:56 boomlinde> yes!
<22:17:58 chocosaurus> :D:D
<22:17:59 boomlinde> it ws hard
<22:18:16 lunar> half-buttered bollock
<22:18:19 chocosaurus> do you think you will go again
<22:18:30 boomlinde> i was climbing barefoot which i guess is harder than climbing shoes, but a lot easier than normal shoes at least
<22:18:50 lunar> chocosaurus, borrow some money and then spend it
<22:18:52 boomlinde> yes, i think i'll go there every day now
<22:19:09 chocosaurus> oh excellent
<22:19:10 boomlinde> it's just outside where i intend to hang out while i'm unemployed
<22:19:20 boomlinde> so i can go out at lunch and have a climb
<22:19:20 chocosaurus> you will really want some climbing shoes if you are going every day
<22:19:30 lunar> lol it stimulates demand in the economy and gets things moving but it's totally false
<22:19:39 lunar> it's like the gears are turning on something that doesn't exist
<22:19:45 chocosaurus> borrow some money and then spend it
<22:19:54 chocosaurus> borrow some money and pay off your debts with it
<22:20:05 lunar> sooner or later it has to slow up again when you cut spending to recover
<22:20:10 chocosaurus> maybe the government should borrow all their money from wonga.com
<22:20:14 lunar> or you can just keep going and pretend money isn't even a real thing
<22:20:20 lunar> which it kind of isn't
<22:20:22 lunar> i guess
<22:20:32 chocosaurus> i guess you could do an iceland and just refuse to pay any of your debts
<22:21:05 lunar> lol why are governments allowed to go into debt
<22:21:11 lunar> but not people
<22:21:29 chipchampion> because governments are more important than people
<22:21:57 lunar> ah man
<22:22:01 lunar> fuckin' penis
<22:22:14 chocosaurus> people are allowed to g o into debt
<22:22:17 chocosaurus> and often do
<22:22:49 lunar> they aren't allowed to do it indefinitely
<22:22:56 lunar> sooner or later they get bumraped
<22:23:39 lunar> otherwise people could live their whole lives on a promise that they'll "pay it back later" and then they die
<22:24:02 xterm> boomlinde: time for me to vote
<22:24:03 xterm> ?
<22:24:15 xterm> er wait
<22:24:19 xterm> how long has this been open? :P
<22:24:24 xterm> alright i'm gonna vote
<22:24:25 xterm> don't tally it :P
<22:24:30 easterbunny> good luck :3~
<22:24:46 boomlinde> no one has been able to vote so far
<22:24:48 dorostorov> botb votes greatest hits
<22:26:07 dorostorov> bro ken
<22:26:16 chocosaurus> bro ken haha
<22:26:23 xterm> kenbro
<22:26:24 xterm> like jonbro
<22:26:34 xterm> brostorov
<22:26:37 xterm> choc-bro-saurus
<22:26:44 xterm> easterbrony
<22:26:58 xterm> etc.
<22:26:59 nys> easterbrony
<22:27:22 xterm> :P
<22:27:34 easterbunny> oh no
<22:27:37 xterm> oh bro
<22:27:41 xterm> (bro no)
<22:27:45 nys> bro bro
<22:27:50 xterm> orb
<22:32:53 trough> bro
<22:35:27 Svetlana> vote time for the ohc always returns 24h
<22:35:32 Svetlana> !compo
<22:35:44 Svetlana> on the bot it returns nothing at all
<22:38:12 trough> why is voting still open on boomlinde's ohc?
<22:38:23 Slimeball> Voting hasn't started yet.
<22:38:27 Slimeball> It's broken. :(
<22:38:45 trough> oh bro
<22:42:05 easterbunny> im a shambler
<22:43:33 chipchampion> uhhgg do i risk trying a different system in deflemask
<22:44:12 chipchampion> PCE has some sort of memory issue, if your track is too big itll just crash
<22:47:32 boomlinde> :(
<22:50:59 dorostorov> die fledermask
<22:51:17 chocosaurus> RationalWiki
<22:51:29 dorostorov> rationing wiki
<22:51:45 chocosaurus> RationalWiki featured article: Evolution
<22:52:21 dorostorov> condogenate
<22:54:59 chocosaurus> boomlinde i have shut down quite a few fundies at school who try to trash on darwin
<22:55:16 easterbunny> Hahahahah HAHAH
<22:55:26 boomlinde> hahaha
<22:55:29 Svetlana> [17:38] <Slimeball> Voting hasn't started yet.
<22:55:31 dorostorov> wow
<22:55:33 boomlinde> try to trash on darwin
<22:55:34 Svetlana> voting started a long time ago
<22:55:41 dorostorov> fun dies
<22:55:54 dorostorov> :(
<22:56:36 dorostorov> sprite-hippy
<22:57:07 easterbunny> 7-up druid
<22:58:19 chocosaurus> try to trash on darwin
<22:58:39 chipchampion> origin of species, straight into the wastebin
<22:58:56 dorostorov> dry the tache on darwin
<22:59:01 easterbunny> darwin was OLD O-L-D
<22:59:17 chipchampion> day of the tentacle
<23:00:27 easterminotaur> }:8
<23:00:43 boomlinde> da darwin boys gonna shut you down less you pay tribute to the dude who invented evolution
<23:00:59 chocosaurus> gonna shut you down at school
<23:01:27 dorostorov> tower i7 pc
<23:01:34 easterminotaur> darwin was a mutant fiddler crab
<23:03:40 chocosaurus> boomlinde i found you a new desktop background http://i.imgur.com/F0E7w.jpg
<23:04:02 dorostorov> shut you down like ofsted
<23:04:08 easterminotaur> ed balls
<23:04:17 dorostorov> ofsted balls
<23:04:34 easterminotaur> =))
<23:04:35 trough> chocosaurus here's a comic http://www.yellow5.com/pokey/archive/index143.html
<23:04:59 chocosaurus> oh it's pokey the penguin
<23:05:02 chocosaurus> i have seen his comics
<23:06:32 boomlinde> WE HAVE COME TO A COMPLETE STOP
<23:06:44 boomlinde> i love pokey
<23:06:53 chocosaurus> atari POKEY the penguin
<23:07:19 lunar> chimp
<23:07:39 easterminotaur> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/68828237/oppressedathiest.PNG chocosaurus
<23:08:23 lunar> o
<23:08:45 trough> that H looks shopped
<23:09:12 chocosaurus> easterminotaur, good Good GOOD
<23:09:37 dorostorov> glotification of donut
<23:09:51 dorostorov> where is athie?
<23:09:56 boomlinde> hahaha
<23:10:15 dorostorov> athie where are you?
<23:10:23 dorostorov> Strobe would know
<23:10:34 xterm> :o
<23:10:45 xterm> o:
<23:10:47 xterm> :o:
<23:10:50 nys> isnt Athadiua from australia?
<23:10:59 xterm> -al
<23:11:17 nys> aurstrali or one of the neighoburing eurpean countries
<23:11:21 xterm> hahah
<23:11:37 xterm> don't forgot poland
<23:12:01 trough> nys: I think it was Austria
<23:12:09 trough> not Australia
<23:12:09 easterminotaur> aurstrali or one of the kookaburring eurpean countries
<23:12:31 xterm> austalraria
<23:12:41 boomlinde> belgium or belgrad or bel air or somerhing
<23:12:43 xterm> detreetoitoit
<23:12:52 nys> australia is just a microcosm of austria everyone knows that
<23:13:00 trough> oh
<23:13:17 nys> kind of like how caligula is a "little boot"
<23:13:31 easterminotaur> haha
<23:13:41 xterm> po-op
<23:13:45 Svetlana> ignoranch
<23:13:45 b-bO__Obz> i forgot that little boot thing
<23:13:59 boomlinde> ignoranch
<23:14:04 xterm> ignoranch
<23:14:09 Svetlana> easterminotaur
<23:14:13 Svetlana> easterminator
<23:14:21 xterm> eaxterm
<23:14:49 xterm> ghetto superstardom
<23:14:49 lunar> business funk
<23:14:57 nys> genre: corporate
<23:15:01 easterminotaur> =)
<23:15:11 easterminotaur> i rejected your track because it was business-casual
<23:15:19 dorostorov> corporate ghetto
<23:15:32 boomlinde> latest firefox update! we made it scroll weird!
<23:15:40 lunar> kawaii chordcluster
<23:15:43 chocosaurus> how does it scroll now boomlinde?
<23:15:44 xterm> NEW FEATURES FOR YOU
<23:15:45 dorostorov> street shareholder
<23:16:01 boomlinde> smoothly
<23:16:08 nys> northern kawaiinsternation
<23:16:12 boomlinde> like mouse movement is interpolated
<23:16:17 trough> genre: Business
<23:16:27 dorostorov> genre: lapwing
<23:16:31 nys> genre: Active
<23:16:33 trough> genre: Technology
<23:16:33 chocosaurus> apparently there is a new download manager in firefox and you can't open the folder that something was downloaded into from the downlooad manager any more
<23:16:41 nys> Cat: Music
<23:16:43 chocosaurus> lapwing > technology
<23:16:45 easterminotaur> one two buckle my shoe
<23:16:47 chocosaurus> lapwing >>>>>>>> technology
<23:16:53 easterminotaur> lapwings funny hairstyle
<23:17:22 chocosaurus> did you know THAT technology can't bring you lasting happiness
<23:17:27 easterminotaur> same hair style as phil anselmo in that one video
<23:17:31 lunar> genre: cutting edge
<23:17:42 nys> genre: straight edge
<23:17:58 dorostorov> "Laid back" feel featuring electric piano synhtheszier brass and lead guitar
<23:18:18 easterminotaur> apreswave
<23:18:22 trough> Humanity is headed in the wrong direction. We could learn somthing from lapwings, instead of this technology stuff
<23:18:25 dorostorov> Bass and Fuzz Guitar feature. A firm rock groove. Brass syntheszier and acoustic piano
<23:18:31 chocosaurus> trough yes
<23:18:51 nys> people could learn a thing or two from esutcheon pins
<23:18:54 chocosaurus> a firm cheesecake a firm rock groove
<23:18:55 dorostorov> "Latin-Funk" title, featuring electric piano and flutes. Intro and bridge spotlights bass guitar
<23:19:06 boomlinde> http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpkkm7baUL1qzczc2o1_400.jpg roosters win
<23:19:14 trough> people could learn a thing or two from enunches
<23:19:28 dorostorov> A distinctly 'Spanish' theme. Guitar solo over brass and tambourine ostinato. Electric piano and flute also heard
<23:19:34 easterminotaur> people called eunice
<23:19:42 nys> a distince rooster express
<23:19:49 easterminotaur> wow people could learn how to win a season of gladiators from people called eunice
<23:19:49 dorostorov> 'Urgent' rock rhythms over bass ostinato theme by brass synthesizer and electric piano
<23:20:19 boomlinde> http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_llk8zrRLVz1qzczc2o1_400.jpg
<23:20:28 dorostorov> (LPSG 4008)
<23:20:44 nys> spreadsheets are the clave of corporate affairs
<23:20:46 lunar> why can't we sing to each other in MML and be universally understood
<23:20:56 easterminotaur> motorik pulse and glacial paleosynth for people who still sleep at night by musicmag guy
<23:20:58 lunar> like whistling in text format
<23:21:04 lunar> why can't we have that
<23:21:08 lunar> why has humanity not done this
<23:22:15 dorostorov> we used more than whistling
<23:22:22 dorostorov> but we did invent a character set or two
<23:22:31 dorostorov> but we forgot to use it to explain how music works
<23:22:37 dorostorov> oops
<23:22:39 trough> chocosaurus I completely agree with you about technology
<23:22:51 lunar> genre: progress
<23:22:55 boomlinde> lunar: if you ever hav children, make tht change
<23:23:08 dorostorov> genre: progressive progress
<23:23:10 lunar> genre: profit margin
<23:23:35 trough> medicine is one form of technology which might bring you more lasting happiness
<23:23:53 dorostorov> what's the best type of medicine?
<23:23:59 trough> in that it would stop you from dying
<23:24:25 chocosaurus> medicine
<23:24:22 chocosaurus> it does bring you a longer life
<23:24:46 trough> some people would die very soon without medicine
<23:24:46 chocosaurus> but your life sucks because technology ruins it so you don't want a longer life anyway
<23:24:47 nys> cryonics brings you a longer life
<23:24:54 dorostorov> in that it would cure a baobab tree of a master boot record failure
<23:25:00 trough> chocosaurus I very much enjoy life
<23:25:14 lunar> http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/s720x720/182307_3443602855327_1411902368_n.jpg hehehe
<23:25:17 TMAnna> http://scenes.at/h3c3ib (URL by lunar)
<23:25:19 lunar> what an interesting photo
<23:25:29 boomlinde> i'll have an androied replicant made to my image
<23:25:38 lunar> where to start
<23:25:41 dorostorov> it's not a photo of me
<23:25:48 trough> why does humanity need progress through technology
<23:25:57 lunar> indeed it isn't
<23:26:05 lunar> we can do photos of you next
<23:26:05 dorostorov> progress through ignorance
<23:26:33 chocosaurus> the new nuclear disposal facility will bring 1000s of jobs to cumbria
<23:26:43 shawn> http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL03B55F908B61E41A
<23:26:44 nys> well the person second from the right looks uncomfortable
<23:26:46 chocosaurus> the new nuclear disposal facility will bring 1000s of radioactive uranium rods to cumbria
<23:26:52 easterminotaur> what if a magpie stole a prototype ipad666 and dropped it into the cracks of doom
<23:27:03 trough> let's invent technology to give people jobs
<23:27:04 chocosaurus> easterminotaur what if mam tor killed steve jobs
<23:27:09 easterminotaur> hahahaha
<23:27:37 dorostorov> glastonbury tor
<23:28:02 lunar> fullname: stephen jobsworth
<23:29:24 trough> useless technologia will bring jobs
<23:29:38 trough> put people to work to create pollution
<23:29:39 dorostorov> Technologia SpA
<23:31:22 chipchampion> will work for burgers
<23:31:23 trough> given the choice between a factory where some beautiful land used to be, or the progress the factory is making, I think most of the time the factory would be preferred
<23:31:56 chocosaurus> business is the most important thing
<23:32:02 chocosaurus> business
<23:32:04 chocosaurus> the economy
<23:32:05 lunar> wear a suit
<23:32:14 nys> will work for esutcheon pins
<23:32:19 chocosaurus> wear a suit
<23:32:58 easterminotaur> business is an anagram of beinsssu
<23:33:32 nys> susbenis
<23:33:52 trough> nys how might someone learn from escutcheon pins?
<23:33:59 nys> well
<23:34:03 lunar> subsenis
<23:34:16 nys> you could make a computer out of them
<23:34:24 nys> out of brass esutcheon pins
<23:34:27 trough> I don't think I could
<23:34:39 nys> speak for yourself
<23:34:43 trough> i did
<23:34:47 chocosaurus> guys the new xbox is going to have silicon circuitry and that means it will be 20% better than the wii
<23:34:58 chocosaurus> EXCITING
<23:35:04 lunar> bigger grafix m8
<23:35:11 chocosaurus> bigger grafix
<23:35:36 trough> nys I don't think someone could learn how to make a computer from an escutcheon pin
<23:35:44 nys> danny hillis did
<23:35:52 easterminotaur> lara croft
<23:35:53 nys> well
<23:35:59 nys> not a single esutcheon pin
<23:36:02 nys> i never said that
<23:36:14 lunar> danny dyers dads dog's dead
<23:36:21 trough> nys I am not aware of this reference
<23:36:29 chocosaurus> you might be able to make an analogue computer from esutcheon pins
<23:36:36 nys> danny hillis built a computer from esutcheon pins
<23:36:37 chocosaurus> a mechanical one
<23:36:42 chocosaurus> but not an electronic one
<23:36:45 lunar> i was going to watch newsnight but i guess it'll be all about how greece is shit and the eurozone is shit and how france is now also shit and how everything is actually shit
<23:36:48 lunar> so i'm not watching it
<23:37:07 chocosaurus> 2012, everything is shit
<23:37:10 trough> nys I don't think he learned from the escutcheon pins how to build the computer
<23:37:16 lunar> yea
<23:37:26 lunar> i wish they had voted syriza
<23:37:36 lunar> some people just want to watch the world burn
<23:37:37 nys> well he taught me how to build a computer with esutcheon pins so i learned
<23:37:58 trough> you learned from Danny Hillis, not the escutcheon pins
<23:38:14 easterminotaur> 2012 leather cop
<23:38:14 chocosaurus> greece might be happier with syriza
<23:38:15 trough> "Escutcheon pins, teach me!"
<23:38:26 nys> but the esutcheon pins facilitated the learning
<23:38:27 chocosaurus> i wonder if anyone would make war on greece if they didn't pay back their debts
<23:38:31 trough> nys: yes
<23:38:35 chocosaurus> i guess it would just be "sanctions" and diplomacy
<23:38:44 trough> nys: which is entirely different
<23:38:44 nys> danny hillis wouldn't have been able to build an esutcheon pin computer without esutcheon pins
<23:38:52 trough> right
<23:39:09 lunar> chocosaurus i heard some conspiracy that china would try to help greece since the euro is tanking
<23:39:16 trough> be he could still understand how to build a escutcheon pin computer without escutcheon pins
<23:39:18 lunar> and it leapfrog their quest for world domination
<23:39:19 trough> *but he
<23:39:21 lunar> it'd^
<23:39:30 easterminotaur> escaflowne pins
<23:40:03 nys> if esutcheon pins didn't exist then he wouldn't understand how to build an esutcheon pin computer
<23:40:08 trough> 21:38 < nys> danny hillis wouldn't have been able to troll an escutcheon pin computer without a bridge
<23:40:23 nys> what
<23:40:33 trough> 21:40 < nys> troll
<23:40:39 nys> okay let's put it this way
<23:40:51 nys> if i'm an esutcheon pin, i can easily teach you things, no?
<23:40:58 chocosaurus> this is a very pointless argument :)
<23:41:03 nys> i can become a teacher, i'm a regular canadian citizen
<23:41:11 easterminotaur> i'm an escutcheon pin, short and stout
<23:41:52 chocosaurus> Danny Hillis, Co-chair of the Board of Directors
<23:42:06 nys> danny hillis is an imagineer
<23:42:20 trough> 21:40 < nys> if an escutcheon pin could easily teach you things, it could easily teach you things, no?
<23:42:21 easterminotaur> stanley ipcress
<23:43:06 nys> exactly
<23:43:08 nys> what is a man
<23:43:28 trough> nys what are you doing?
<23:44:44 nys> okay, say you're an esutcheon pin
<23:44:52 trough> :D
<23:45:05 trough> (|========>
<23:45:32 chocosaurus> brad pitt
<23:45:37 chocosaurus> easterminotaur, brad pitt
<23:46:00 easterminotaur> a fine actor
<23:46:06 nys> wait an escutcheon is quite different from an escutcheon pin
<23:46:15 easterminotaur> brad pin
<23:46:30 nys> brad pindows 98
<23:46:50 chocosaurus> easterminotaur, brad DOURIF
<23:47:05 easterminotaur> brad dourif is super good
<23:47:18 easterminotaur> escutcheon pinko
<23:47:28 escutcheon_pin> I am an escutcheon pin
<23:48:38 chocosaurus> easterminotaur, brad dourif's cow
<23:48:51 easterminotaur> :) brad dourif's ostrich
<23:48:52 nys> christmas jazz is bumpin
<23:49:19 escutcheon_pin> Vince Guaraldi
<23:49:53 nys> one time i met a guy that was the drummer for vince guaraldi
<23:49:59 escutcheon_pin> wow
<23:50:23 easterminotaur> ted drums
<23:51:12 Svetlana> one time i hit my head against a wall on purpose until i got a nosebleed
<23:51:24 escutcheon_pin> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1TLIh06SSY
<23:51:35 nys> http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5stfdYML11qffkwto1_500.jpg
<23:51:43 escutcheon_pin> Svetlana: \o/ hug
<23:52:17 escutcheon_pin> try not to be sad
<23:53:00 nys> try not to be sad
<23:53:24 escutcheon_pin> nys that is a beautiful picture
<23:53:30 nys> i know right
<23:53:41 chocosaurus> the proportions are a bit wrong
<23:53:46 chocosaurus> learn to use photoshop NOOB
<23:54:03 nys> maybe it's a model
<23:54:07 nys> or a painting
<23:54:41 nys> http://scenes.at/h3c3ib the proportions are a bit wrong
<23:54:46 nys> learn to use photoshop NOOB
<23:55:00 easterminotaur> coastal erosion doesn't exist teach the controversy
<23:55:15 escutcheon_pin> nys: that rock is in Thailand
<23:55:18 escutcheon_pin> without a castle on it
<23:55:22 nys> okay
<23:55:40 nys> maybe it's a painting of that rock but with a castle on it
<23:55:48 escutcheon_pin> http://www.phuketeasytour.com/image/excursion/adventure-canoeing/Phang-nga-bay_1361775c.jpg
<23:55:50 TMAnna> http://scenes.at/rdk3ib (URL by escutcheon_pin)
<23:55:52 nys> or a model of that rock with a castle on it
<23:56:09 easterminotaur> maybe the rock has a castle on it but it only comes out at night
<23:56:27 chocosaurus> legend of the ghost lion
<23:56:38 escutcheon_pin> :)
<23:57:50 easterminotaur> i won't let 2012 kill mystery
<23:57:59 easterminotaur> im mysterys big sister
<23:58:08 chocosaurus> legend of the ghost lion
<23:58:37 nys> legend of the forever
<23:58:38 chocosaurus> easterbunny alfred watkins found a rock with a basin in it the shape of a man's head and a notch the shape of a man's neck and a drainage channel
<23:58:45 chocosaurus> a place to chop off heads he suspects
<23:58:53 easterminotaur> =) alfred watkins
<23:59:01 easterminotaur> ritual headchopping off is ok as long as you don't waste ze brain
<23:59:22 escutcheon_pin> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-w7meqEOuTA
<23:59:32 lunar> sodding sodborough
<23:59:38 easterminotaur> i cannot bring myself to finish zat game
<23:59:58 escutcheon_pin> why not?
<00:00:57 easterminotaur> well i got so far in and then another wave of quests all made zemselves known and i decided no
<00:01:13 easterminotaur> plus some of zose summons you get seem really useless and frustrating
<00:01:21 easterminotaur> here is a halfling who can defend
<00:01:25 easterminotaur> here is a slug
<00:02:30 escutcheon_pin> here is a rug
<00:03:00 chocosaurus> your names are the same length and start with e
<00:03:02 chocosaurus> confusing
<00:03:11 trough> sorry
<00:03:13 chocosaurus> oh !
<00:03:24 chocosaurus> escutcheon_pin
<00:03:44 chocosaurus> i have a sore throat
<00:03:50 trough> oh bro
<00:04:41 lunar> cookaborough
<00:04:57 trough> capybara
<00:05:09 chocosaurus> david attenborough
<00:05:19 chocosaurus> david attenborough vs. prince philip
<00:07:16 lunar> prince attenborough
<00:13:57 easterbunny> i made a frying pan out of escutcheon pins
<00:15:37 trough> I am impressed
<00:17:30 Svetlana> i should make a frying pan out of my head
<00:17:51 trough> no
<00:17:57 chocosaurus> HARDCORE/CHIPCORE
<00:23:51 chocosaurus> bendis
<00:23:54 chocosaurus> Bendis
<00:23:56 chocosaurus> trough, bendis
<00:23:57 chocosaurus> Bendis
<00:24:07 trough> bendis?
<00:24:12 chocosaurus> bendis
<00:24:14 chocosaurus> Bendis
<00:24:15 chocosaurus> BENDIS
<00:24:28 chocosaurus> b e n d i s
<00:24:32 chocosaurus> bendis
<00:24:35 chocosaurus> b e n d i s
<00:24:37 chocosaurus> bendis
<00:24:38 b-bO__Obz> lol this client has a funny gunshot sound for kicks xD
<00:24:43 chocosaurus> :D
<00:25:25 chocosaurus> trough, colour coded clouds of energy and harmonic matter
<00:26:32 trough> confusion
<00:27:06 easterbunny> will be my.... epitaph
<00:27:48 chocosaurus> easterbunny what's today's forehead tattoo
<00:28:17 easterbunny> bee fee
<00:28:46 chocosaurus> :)))
<00:28:58 Svetlana> my forehead tatoo would probably be a self inflicted wound
<00:29:15 chocosaurus> aren't all tattoos self inflicted wounds
<00:29:48 Svetlana> not in the same sense i meant mine
<00:32:18 shawn> tattoos are scarring yourself
<00:32:35 shawn> its not a wound because skin isn't punctured in a way that is open
<00:32:38 neuro-sys> scarification is beyond tattoos
<00:32:43 shawn> it is
<00:32:52 shawn> but tattooing is still scarification in a sense
<00:33:17 neuro-sys> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Euler's_identity_scarification,_3PiCon,_Springfield,_MA.JPG.jpg
<00:33:20 TMAnna> http://scenes.at/1or3ib (URL by neuro-sys)
<00:33:23 neuro-sys> Yummy or yuck, can't tell.
<00:33:26 shawn> sometimes people put tattoos over stuff when they cut themselves and shit
<00:33:32 shawn> effectively putting a scar over a scar
<00:34:04 neuro-sys> That's smart.
<00:34:15 neuro-sys> And painful.
<00:36:01 chipchampion> hot or not
<00:39:35 trough> America's favorite judgement gameshow
<00:39:39 b-bO__Obz> !compo
<00:39:58 b-bO__Obz> are we leaving voting open for a while?
<00:40:08 b-bO__Obz> i'm about to leave work
<00:40:10 b-bO__Obz> kind of curious
<00:41:10 b-bO__Obz> even weirder -- voting period counts down from 24 hours on every refresh
<00:41:20 b-bO__Obz> oh
<00:41:23 b-bO__Obz> there are no votes
<00:41:30 b-bO__Obz> i must have borked something yesterday?
<00:41:54 b-bO__Obz> but no one writes a bug repost . . . .
<00:41:59 chocosaurus> no one can vote
<00:42:04 b-bO__Obz> will check it out later tonight i guess!! :X
<00:42:21 b-bO__Obz> why did report get switched to repost?
<00:42:25 b-bO__Obz> i hate this irc client sometimes
<00:43:08 b-bO__Obz> ok
<00:43:22 b-bO__Obz> i'm out - but will be around in a few hours and i'll try to figure this shit out
<00:43:44 b-bO__Obz> accitdently set everyone to Troll status :X *
<00:48:13 eightbitbubsy> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4846123/5628995.jpg
<00:50:19 trough> I like the picture
<00:51:18 Svetlana> how come there aren't any decent spc to it converters
<00:51:24 Svetlana> the only one is openspc and it's shit
<00:51:35 Slimeball> spc is impossible to quantize, it seems.
<00:51:48 Svetlana> i found a forum post of someone explaining how it could be done better but he didn't make an actual program to do it
<00:52:23 trough> it would be good if it actually picked a fitting tempo and speed in the resulting .it
<00:53:22 trough> i can't believe it would be impossible
<00:53:35 eightbitbubsy> .SPC is just an SPC700 RAM capture, the replayer is different for most games, it depends on how the programmer wrote it
<00:53:56 trough> right now, I would just rip the samples and recreate the song myself
<00:53:58 Svetlana> it should still be possible to make something that's not as awful as openspc
<00:54:00 eightbitbubsy> OpenSPC just interprets the frequency as notes, and the frequency changes on a channel as pitch slides
<00:54:02 Svetlana> even if you don't have the source
<00:54:21 eightbitbubsy> maybe, but it won't be reliable
<00:54:35 eightbitbubsy> I don't think you understand how NSF/SPC/SID works
<00:54:39 eightbitbubsy> they are not modules
<00:54:55 trough> it could do something like: recognize the distances between notes and make sure to pick a speed where they align nicely
<00:54:57 eightbitbubsy> it's just code. 6502 code for NSF, something for SPC and 6510 for SID
<00:55:05 Svetlana> [19:54] <eightbitbubsy> I don't think you understand how NSF/SPC/SID works
<00:55:07 Svetlana> i do
<00:55:12 Svetlana> i know it's just code
<00:55:16 Svetlana> please stop patronizing me
<00:55:27 trough> even if you don't know the code i think Svetlana's right
<00:55:41 eightbitbubsy> theoretically possible, but it would be one mess of a parser
<00:55:55 Svetlana> http://www.romhacking.net/forum/index.php?topic=10164.0
<00:56:08 eightbitbubsy> also there's no way to distinct between vibratos and pitch slides
<00:56:20 eightbitbubsy> unless you hardcore a parser for known internal players
<00:56:38 eightbitbubsy> and stuff like that. It's kind of hopeless
<00:56:39 trough> it could set the row length in the .it to be the smallest multiple of the times between all of the changes in the song
<00:58:04 trough> by changes i mean, every new instruction that it gets
<00:58:24 trough> like any change in volume or pitch or sample or whatever
<00:58:57 trough> i am forgetting my math temrs
<00:58:58 eightbitbubsy> what do you mean? There's no standard player for the SNES APU
<00:58:59 trough> terms
<00:59:07 eightbitbubsy> you make your own vibrato routines etc
<00:59:12 trough> i get that
<00:59:20 trough> alright nvm
<00:59:28 eightbitbubsy> an instruction could be anything, if you get what I mean
<00:59:37 Svetlana> what trough said makes sense though
<01:00:19 eightbitbubsy> it's possible but it's one of those projects where you just give up because it requires intense thinking, hacking and spaghetti coding
<01:00:38 eightbitbubsy> if it's supposed to generate nice .IT files with vibrato, proper tempo and so on
<01:01:11 trough> eightbitbubsy: it might not understand the difference between vibrato and pitch, BUT
<01:01:23 Svetlana> i just want something that doesn't run at speed 250 and lines up with patterns right
<01:01:25 trough> i don't see how that would matter
<01:01:50 trough> I think it would be better if the program forgot about vibrato
<01:01:53 eightbitbubsy> trough, getting a lot of pitch slides in a channel is very ugly, also the resolution will not be as good
<01:02:05 trough> enter in the vibrato yourself
<01:02:09 eightbitbubsy> fair enough
<01:02:49 trough> but you're right
<01:03:04 trough> if it has vibrato, that will be a lot of new pitch instructions very fast
<01:03:21 trough> which would make a very fast .it
<01:03:44 eightbitbubsy> yes
<01:03:46 trough> maybe it would be better if it only considered the times between the notes being triggered
<01:04:02 trough> and then you could tell it how much resolution you want inbetween
<01:04:08 trough> does that make sense?
<01:04:30 eightbitbubsy> not sure, I don't know how this stuff works in theory
<01:04:36 eightbitbubsy> it's advanced, I can tell that
<01:05:16 eightbitbubsy> but Svetlana, if you only want a more sane tempo and alignment, then it's likely that it will happen
<01:05:39 Svetlana> yes that is what i want
<01:06:03 trough> i was just trying to suggest a means of achieving that.
<01:06:14 trough> but i am very unknowledgeable about this
<01:06:50 trough> Svetlana what do you want converted to .it?
<01:06:56 eightbitbubsy> well, "likely", I don't know, but it's doable if one's really enthusiastic and willing
<01:07:02 eightbitbubsy> like Dwedit
<01:07:07 trough> I could try to remake it for you
<01:07:59 Svetlana> i don't know
<01:08:02 Svetlana> nothing in particular
<01:09:06 trough> okay
<01:09:16 eightbitbubsy> look at my Macintosh SE, I fixed the CRT problems: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4846123/mac_se_crt_fix__2.jpg
<01:09:18 eightbitbubsy> it looks really good
<01:09:24 eightbitbubsy> one day I'll make a .MOD player in 68k asm for it
<01:09:25 trough> wow, nice!!
<01:09:38 trough> I love the old mac interface
<01:09:43 eightbitbubsy> me too, it's kewl
<01:09:51 eightbitbubsy> it has a 40MB SCSI hard drive
<01:09:56 Svetlana> larry john steve and bruce
<01:10:26 Jangler> steve jobs, larry wall, johnny appleseed, and bruce willis
<01:10:37 Jangler> the greatest minds of their respective generations
<01:11:08 eightbitbubsy> I replaced the flyback transformer and reapplied grease to the suction cup (hv anode), then I readjusted some of the pots (focus)
<01:11:22 eightbitbubsy> the old flyback transformer was whining very loudly, it was dying
<01:11:44 eightbitbubsy> I also checked some of the most important DC filter caps with an ESR capacitance meter, they're (shockingly) good
<01:11:56 Svetlana> i need to replace the potentiometer on my old computer speakers
<01:12:03 Svetlana> they're from 1990 and amazingly good
<01:12:22 Jangler> i need to buy new speakers on my old computer speakers
<01:12:36 Svetlana> i've never heard any speakers better than these
<01:12:42 Svetlana> small computer ones, i mean
<01:12:47 Svetlana> they're really good
<01:12:52 eightbitbubsy> Svetlana, yeah the older PC desktop speakers were awesome
<01:12:53 eightbitbubsy> some of them
<01:13:08 eightbitbubsy> they had filled deep bass, good mid range and so on
<01:13:24 eightbitbubsy> not that you can't get good pc desktop speakers today
<01:13:27 eightbitbubsy> but just saying
<01:13:28 Svetlana> they even let you use either batteries OR dc input WOW !!!
<01:13:35 trough> never buy a Creative brand surround systme
<01:13:37 eightbitbubsy> WOW PENIS
<01:13:54 eightbitbubsy> Svetlana, what brand?
<01:14:01 Svetlana> labtec
<01:14:05 eightbitbubsy> Hah
<01:14:09 Svetlana> it came with a "MULTIMEDIA SYSTEM"
<01:14:18 eightbitbubsy> I actually had some Labtec speakers that could run on batteries too
<01:14:20 Svetlana> sound card 10x cd drive and speakers
<01:14:23 eightbitbubsy> but I think they were from 94-96
<01:14:34 Svetlana> either 10x or 2x
<01:14:38 Svetlana> i can't actually remember
<01:14:40 eightbitbubsy> lol
<01:14:40 eightbitbubsy> s
<01:14:42 eightbitbubsy> *
<01:14:45 Svetlana> s
<01:14:48 eightbitbubsy> lols
<01:14:54 Svetlana> s
<01:14:59 eightbitbubsy> s
<01:15:35 eightbitbubsy> Svetlana, http://i.ebayimg.com/t/VINTAGE-LABTEC-CS-550-COMPUTER-SPEAKER-SET-/00/s/ODM4WDEyMzM=/$(KGrHqV,!icE8V7Bpn1PBPMff8CJmw~~60_57.JPG
<01:15:37 eightbitbubsy> these?
<01:15:38 TMAnna> http://scenes.at/a0y3ib (URL by eightbitbubsy)
<01:16:13 Svetlana> yes
<01:16:17 Svetlana> that is the brand
<01:16:23 Svetlana> they don't look like that though
<01:16:53 eightbitbubsy> http://images.addoway.com/items/22933/1920179/22933_2_1e24c3.jpg
<01:17:10 Svetlana> closer
<01:17:14 Svetlana> still not them though
<01:17:21 Jangler> what the hell
<01:17:42 eightbitbubsy> http://asset0.cbsistatic.com/cnwk.1d/sc/30208432-2-200-0.gif
<01:17:50 Jangler> is there no way to find the offset of the instrument header in an .XM file?
<01:18:08 Svetlana> eightbitbubsy those look like intercoms lol
<01:18:35 trough> http://di1-3.shoppingshadow.com/images/pi/c1/b5/b4/20808840-260x260-0-0_Labtec LCS 150.jpg
<01:18:38 TMAnna> http://scenes.at/ka63ib (URL by trough)
<01:18:38 trough> how about this
<01:18:53 eightbitbubsy> http://thumbs2.ebaystatic.com/m/mPSey_7s4W5HLoOOJnklh2Q/140.jpg
<01:19:02 trough> nvm i guess that looks almost exactly like bubsy's
<01:19:04 Svetlana> those look the same as the second one 8bb posted
<01:19:14 eightbitbubsy> Svetlana, check my link
<01:19:17 eightbitbubsy> like THOSE?
<01:19:19 Svetlana> no
<01:19:22 Svetlana> [20:16] <eightbitbubsy> http://images.addoway.com/items/22933/1920179/22933_2_1e24c3.jpg
<01:19:22 Svetlana> [20:16] <Svetlana> closer
<01:19:38 Svetlana> you're finding ones that look nothing like those
<01:20:30 trough> i can't load bubsy's links so forgive me
<01:20:37 eightbitbubsy> http://www.triplepdesigns.com/mixing.htm
<01:20:44 eightbitbubsy> like the one at the bottom left?
<01:20:50 shawn> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyckRska5sU
<01:20:51 Svetlana> no
<01:21:07 trough> http://www.govbids.com/Post/surplusauctions/pics/118200735446PM380100_0132.jpg
<01:21:56 Svetlana> wow there isn't one single image of them in the internet
<01:22:31 eightbitbubsy> http://mypeoplepc.com/members/hrududu//sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/speakers_labtec_all.jpg
<01:22:34 eightbitbubsy> worst picture ever, but
<01:22:34 TMAnna> http://scenes.at/ulc4ib (URL by eightbitbubsy)
<01:22:43 Svetlana> no
<01:22:54 Svetlana> though i know someone with speakers like those
<01:22:59 eightbitbubsy> http://www.bigkey.com/pic/Labtec/labtec_cs-900_computer_speaker_set.jpg
<01:23:05 Svetlana> no
<01:23:10 Svetlana> they're kinda rounded
<01:23:15 Svetlana> you keep going for the square ones
<01:23:37 Svetlana> http://www.oocities.org/gijoekerr/speaker1.jpg
<01:23:38 Svetlana> this
<01:23:39 eightbitbubsy> do they look oldskool or rather modern?
<01:23:42 Svetlana> thissss
<01:23:54 trough> wow you found it
<01:23:55 eightbitbubsy> what makes it NOT be yours?
<01:24:03 eightbitbubsy> like yours*
<01:24:14 Svetlana> except the left one has POWER, BASS and TREBLE buttons and the volume potentiomter
<01:24:16 Svetlana> eightbitbubsy what
<01:24:37 eightbitbubsy> uh that's the ones I linked
<01:24:39 eightbitbubsy> I think
<01:24:41 trough> no
<01:24:42 Svetlana> no
<01:24:46 Svetlana> unless i missed a link
<01:24:59 eightbitbubsy> Ah I see
<01:25:01 Svetlana> http://images.addoway.com/items/22933/1920179/22933_2_1e24c3.jpg
<01:25:07 Svetlana> these were the second ones you linked
<01:25:09 Svetlana> they are close
<01:25:44 trough> they don't have the important cutaway feature under the grille
<01:25:59 eightbitbubsy> yes
<01:27:38 Jangler> the XM file says the size of pattern data is 32 bytes. it's 512 bytes. waddafuk
<01:28:54 eightbitbubsy> http://www.hotukdeals.com/images/avatars/avatar128475_1.jpg
<01:28:56 eightbitbubsy> best avatar
<01:29:17 Svetlana> hotuk deals
<01:29:19 eightbitbubsy> Jangler, "the XM file"?
<01:29:22 Slimeball> hotkuk deals
<01:29:25 eightbitbubsy> http://16-bits.org/xm/
<01:29:30 Svetlana> who is hotuk and why does he deal
<01:33:12 eightbitbubsy> Jangler, pattern data is packed in Xm
<01:33:14 eightbitbubsy> XM
<01:34:49 trough> i saw one of these today
<01:34:51 trough> http://www.scottsdalecorvettes.com/shelbyspecs/pics/1967_Ford_Shelby_Mustang_GT-500_f3q.JPG
<01:34:54 TMAnna> http://scenes.at/4wj4ib (URL by trough)
<01:35:01 trough> it made a sound like BvvvvvvvvvvvvvvVVVVVVVVV
<01:35:27 eightbitbubsy> how does BvvvvvvvvvvvvvvVVVVVVVVV sound like
<01:35:30 eightbitbubsy> what*
<01:35:41 trough> I am horrible with onomatopoeias
<01:37:05 trough> it sounded like a loud V8 engine though
<01:37:11 Jangler> eightbitbubsy: it's a blank pattern with eight channels and 64 rows
<01:37:41 Jangler> when i read the binary data, there are 512 (64*8) consecutive 0x80 bytes where the pattern data is supposed to be
<01:38:05 Jangler> but the pattern header says the "packed pattern data size" is 32
<01:39:29 trough> farewell
<01:41:30 Svetlana> http://badassjs.com/post/25369867558/shumway-mozillas-flash-vm-and-runtime-in-javascript
<01:41:31 Jangler> okay i found another spec says that "if the packed pattern data size is not 0, it might not match the exact size in bytes"
<01:41:32 TMAnna> http://scenes.at/d8q4ib (URL by Svetlana)
<01:41:38 Jangler> so nvm we're good i guess
<01:51:54 Svetlana> http://bitterspring.net/ms/morningstar/
<02:06:59 dw> when do i get to learn the name of the genius behind beseechthepeach.xm
<02:16:42 shawn> we'll talk about that when you finish your vegetables
<02:33:49 lainlives> now playing: DJ Assault - Dick By The Pound [04:06m/320kbps/44kHz] *
<03:21:44 Playa257> zup
<03:29:37 overhtruster> hey i am trying to vote and it is busted
<03:29:50 overhtruster> Fatal error: Call to a member function IsLoggedIn() on a non-object in /home/puke7/battleofthebits.org/whats/vote_record/vote_record_class.php on line 29
<03:49:14 puke7> yeh
<03:49:16 puke7> i just got home
<03:49:19 puke7> gonna fix that
<03:50:30 puke7> there
<03:50:36 puke7> timestamps are on now
<03:50:54 puke7> now i know how long since sumptin happoed
<03:51:29 puke7> every IRC client has 80 billion billion options
<04:06:49 overhtruster> k
<04:50:57 xterm> :D
<04:51:20 Jangler> better not use md5 if you don't want BUTT COLLISIONS
<04:52:59 xterm> hahahaha
<04:53:07 xterm> BUTT#
<04:53:19 xterm> #3
<04:54:51 xterm> ROwBOaT
<04:59:39 Jangler> wa
<05:00:05 xterm> watt d faak
<05:00:19 overhtruster> hi
<05:00:33 xterm> hey hey
<05:00:47 overhtruster> http://robot-dreams.com/nahc/BUTT/
<05:00:56 Jangler> oh no
<05:00:58 Jangler> i'm scared
<05:01:41 xterm> heh
<05:01:50 puke7> i found that voting bug
<05:01:55 xterm> nice :)
<05:01:58 puke7> pretty laughable
<05:02:07 Jangler> oh what was it
<05:02:11 xterm> only trolls could vote?
<05:02:13 puke7> but there are a couple other things i want to fix before i patch
<05:02:28 puke7> like the OHB format icon missing from the front page
<05:02:40 puke7> and the voting period always counts down from 24 hours
<05:02:49 xterm> ah yes
<05:03:32 Jangler> hmm this is actually pretty clever
<05:03:37 Jangler> the way XM format encodes note data
<05:04:07 overhtruster> how is that
<05:04:08 overhtruster> tell us
<05:04:16 overhtruster> XM IZ BULLCRAP
<05:04:17 overhtruster> !
<05:04:43 Jangler> so there are five properties that a note can have
<05:04:58 Jangler> pitch, instrument, volume, effect type, and effect parameter
<05:05:22 Jangler> which are 7-bit, 6-bit, 5-bit, 4-bit, and 8-bit values, respectively
<05:05:37 Jangler> and the unused bits in each byte tell you what kind of value comes next
<05:05:51 Jangler> (effect type always comes last so it doesn't need any of those bits)
<05:05:58 xterm> ah
<05:06:02 xterm> so it compresses away some of it
<05:06:03 overhtruster> damn
<05:06:10 overhtruster> no wonder they are so small etc
<05:06:29 xterm> but for pitch there would only be 2 options
<05:06:32 Jangler> yeah, if a note is just C-4 1 it won't have any volume/effect/parameter data
<05:07:15 xterm> ah
<05:07:21 Jangler> yeah, i think only instrument can come directly after note
<05:07:27 xterm> so 1 is like...nothing else, go to next row
<05:07:32 xterm> or next col i guess
<05:07:58 Jangler> yeah it reads left-to-right, then top-to-bottom
<05:13:53 xterm> ahh also, so using 00 to pad "same" effects saves you one byte per usage
<05:14:03 xterm> cuz it just skips
<05:14:43 Jangler> i don't think i fully understand it yet
<05:19:09 xterm> http://i.imgur.com/Vg5fD.jpg
<05:19:34 Jangler> hahaha
<05:19:49 puke7> \:D/
<05:19:49 Jangler> steve ballmer is... MicroMan
<05:20:01 puke7> lol microsoft sanserif
<05:20:11 puke7> "it's their font"
<05:20:20 puke7> they paid someone to make it
<05:20:40 puke7> microsoft should have adopted helvetica early on so there was contention there
<05:20:50 puke7> dummies
<05:20:55 puke7> arial is ghey
<05:20:59 xterm> lol
<05:21:03 puke7> but me loves me some arial black!!!
<05:21:09 xterm> RACIST
<05:21:17 Jangler> arial makes me sad
<05:21:26 puke7> when it's that thick i kinda prefer it not so parellel
<05:21:36 puke7> or square or whatevs
<05:21:52 xterm> i don't know much about fonts, but i really like the one in android 1.6
<05:25:44 Jangler> so when i
<05:25:55 puke7> http://www.fontsquirrel.com/foundry/Google-Android <--- lol
<05:25:58 Jangler> but then the instrument values are 3 instead of 1
<05:26:15 puke7> the font is called Droid Sans part of the android typeface family
<05:26:44 Jangler> wow that is a nice font
<05:26:51 xterm> yeah i <3 it
<05:26:51 chunter> I'm not sure if that looks like my phone or not
<05:26:54 Jangler> i don't like the monospace but that's not too important
<05:27:03 puke7> yeah teh monospace is kinda shit
<05:27:38 Jangler> maybe i will get that
<05:27:49 chunter> it's pretty nice yeah
<05:27:50 xterm> i want to make all my apps use that font exclusively now
<05:27:58 puke7> oh jeez
<05:28:01 puke7> getting sloppy
<05:28:05 chunter> usually the letters are smaller than a pinky nail so it looks way different
<05:28:08 puke7> b-knox is doing codes?!??!
<05:28:14 puke7> everyone hide!! =O
<05:28:16 xterm> nooooooo
<05:28:18 Jangler> we're screwed
<05:28:22 xterm> now puke7 has to write a song
<05:28:26 Jangler> ahha
<05:28:44 puke7> so, yeah, voting on that OHB is open now
<05:28:47 xterm> oh word
<05:28:48 xterm> i should vote
<05:28:55 xterm> linde is asleep i guess
<05:28:58 puke7> yeah
<05:29:03 puke7> but he can close it open whenev
<05:29:13 puke7> or the site will shut it down after a ttl 24 hours
<05:29:22 puke7> . .. i think
<05:29:27 xterm> :P
<05:29:51 Slimeball> There's a little error with it I think
<05:30:00 Slimeball> I think I just voted thrice in a row.
<05:30:12 puke7> and?
<05:30:24 xterm> well you can usually change your votes
<05:30:30 xterm> did it give you extra criticist pnts each time?
<05:30:32 Slimeball> I didn't change my votes
<05:30:39 Slimeball> And I got 3 x 5 criticist points
<05:30:40 xterm> you can always hit save over and over
<05:30:42 xterm> oh
<05:30:44 xterm> so extra pnts
<05:30:47 puke7> whoops
<05:30:51 Jangler> this is why we don't let b-knox code
<05:30:53 xterm> quick see what level you can get up to before he fixes it!!!!
<05:30:59 puke7> :X
<05:31:03 xterm> :P
<05:31:15 Slimeball> Hahaha :P
<05:31:37 Jangler> :b
<05:31:46 Jangler> d:
<05:31:47 puke7> ok now try and save them votes again!
<05:31:55 xterm> how did you get that backwards b
<05:32:02 puke7> :|
<05:32:17 Jangler> it's a secret
<05:32:23 Jangler> it's a secret to everyone
<05:32:36 Slimeball> It works correctly now, I think. :D
<05:32:38 puke7> tell nobody or be shot by lightning fire
<05:32:50 Slimeball> No cheating points for me anymore.
<05:33:00 puke7> yeah, sometimes variables need to be called into global space higher up the procedural pipe
<05:33:00 Jangler> Slimeball: level 47 Cheatist
<05:33:22 puke7> so now i start laundry and take a shower!!! :D:D:D:D:D:DDd
<05:38:58 Jangler> <dong></dong><dong></dong>
<05:42:38 Jangler> oh god dammit
<05:42:44 Jangler> i was overcomplicating this a huge amount
<05:43:14 Jangler> the spec for XM format says stuff like "Note follows"
<05:43:20 Jangler> i thought that was referring to the next byte
<05:43:27 Jangler> but it's just referring to the rest of the current byte
<05:49:17 null1024> don't read the XM spec
<05:49:20 null1024> it is rather wrong
<05:49:28 Jangler> too late :X
<05:49:50 null1024> making an XM player based on the spec won't work when fed a real XM module ;3
<05:50:42 Jangler> technically i'm making an XM writer but why not? what's wrong with it :O
<05:53:26 xterm> zan-entry found
<05:53:27 null1024> I saw a corrected version of Triton's XM format spec, there were a lot of changes from what they describe
<05:53:38 null1024> although I can't find it for the life of me right now -_-
<05:53:42 Jangler> lol
<05:53:48 Jangler> so far what i'm reading seems to be fine
<05:53:51 Jangler> i mean
<05:53:57 Jangler> as in the bytes i'm reading from the file
<05:54:09 Jangler> but i haven't thrown anything too complex at it yet
<05:54:31 null1024> here: http://16-bits.org/xm/
<05:55:53 Jangler> thankee sir
<05:56:48 null1024> oh hey, that was bubsy's IIRC
<05:57:09 eee> null1024: null1024 null1024 null1024 null1024 null1024 null1024 null1024 null1024
<05:57:11 eee> hi :)
<05:57:15 null1024> eee eee eee
<05:57:17 null1024> hello eee
<05:57:23 eee> what is up??
<05:57:26 null1024> not much
<05:57:32 null1024> fixed my Dreamcast's laser
<05:57:37 eee> how is summer vacation?
<05:57:51 null1024> it will probably die in a month because I didn't have an ohmmeter to see how much I increased it
<05:58:03 null1024> but a new DC is $20, so fuck it
<05:58:11 null1024> eee: good
<05:58:16 null1024> my nephew lives with me now
<05:58:19 null1024> ;-;
<05:58:20 eee> O:
<05:58:24 null1024> he is 10
<05:58:24 eee> young annoying nephew?
<05:58:27 eee> ew
<05:58:26 null1024> yes
<05:58:30 eee> my condolences.
<05:58:33 null1024> ;3
<05:58:36 eee> does he
<05:58:38 eee> like CoD MW4
<05:58:40 null1024> no
<05:58:41 eee> instead of super mario?
<05:58:50 null1024> he spends his life playing Pokemon
<05:59:05 eee> oooh
<05:59:07 eee> then he is still redemable
<05:59:14 eee> once they go XBL they never go back.
<05:59:17 eee> full retard.
<05:59:18 null1024> I am molding him with pre 2006 gaming stuffs.
<05:59:27 eee> very good.
<06:00:52 null1024> dreamcast
<06:01:08 null1024> I wish real life was like Crazy Taxi
<06:01:26 null1024> ;3
<06:01:46 Jangler> lookie dem pointy spikes
<06:01:55 null1024> also, I am godawful at that game, I last like 3 minutes in Arcade mode
<06:02:14 puke7> ok
<06:02:16 puke7> fak laundry
<06:02:19 puke7> shower
<06:02:38 puke7> h00rays more bug fixes than i can shake sticks up my butt
<06:02:54 null1024> :OOO
<06:03:02 null1024> you shouldn't use sticks
<06:03:08 null1024> rather, meat from the store
<06:03:09 puke7> it's been a crazy couple days of code
<06:03:27 puke7> i think i am rather willing to stick just about any darn thing up there at this here point
<06:03:32 null1024> ahahaha
<06:03:40 null1024> '3
<06:03:51 null1024> er, ;3
<06:04:16 Jangler> 3-
<06:05:00 null1024> 3~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
<06:15:20 Jangler> hmm
<06:15:33 Jangler> i think i finally understand the XM pattern packing
<06:15:46 Jangler> none of the documents i looked at explained it well at all
<06:17:00 Jangler> the way i THOUGHT it worked would actually be more memory-efficient, but whatever
<06:17:06 puke7> ha
<06:17:09 puke7> never!
<06:17:31 puke7> good coders often do shit documentation
<06:18:50 Jangler> here i was thinking that XM used a really clever way to squeeze a bit more data into those bytes
<06:19:05 Jangler> nope! wasted bits all around
<06:21:31 gyms> voted!
<06:21:54 gyms> when did the vote thing get fixed?
<06:28:07 xterm> puke7 the stats thing doesnt work for me in chrome
<06:28:20 xterm> or, wait
<06:28:25 xterm> it just refreshed, let's see
<06:28:42 puke7> :U
<06:28:50 puke7> imma walk to teh store for butt papers
<06:29:00 puke7> the misses done dropped one in the turlet
<06:29:08 puke7> now we out
<06:29:13 puke7> o/
<06:29:34 Jangler> \/o\/
<06:29:39 xterm> crab
<06:29:46 xterm> yeah the chart works now :P
<06:29:48 xterm> btw
<06:30:03 Jangler> /\o/\ pider
<06:31:09 xterm> hehe
<06:31:14 Svetlana> (V)(',,,')(V) why not zoidberg
<06:31:23 xterm> haha nice
<06:31:25 Jangler> damn Svetlana
<06:31:27 Jangler> that is cash
<06:31:29 Jangler> or something
<06:31:43 overhtruster> jangler why are you making an xm writer
<06:31:52 overhtruster> you just want to compose .xm without a tracker
<06:31:59 Jangler> i just realized that i've had the Most Unwanted Music playing through my head for the last half hour
<06:32:03 Jangler> have you guys every heard that?
<06:32:40 Jangler> overhtruster: i'm interested in experimenting with procedural music algorithms
<06:33:01 overhtruster> arent .xm limited to 64 rows per pattern?
<06:33:04 Jangler> and i think XM is a relatively good way to do that
<06:33:10 Svetlana> no
<06:33:11 Jangler> 256 rows
<06:33:15 Svetlana> ^
<06:33:22 overhtruster> oh in that case then
<06:33:25 Jangler> also to learn google's go language
<06:33:27 overhtruster> i thought .xm was limited
<06:33:35 Jangler> nah it's exteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeended
<06:33:40 Svetlana> even if it were
<06:33:43 Svetlana> what does it matter
<06:33:49 overhtruster> WELL
<06:33:58 overhtruster> if you were going to make algorithmic based music etc
<06:34:11 overhtruster> it would be much easier to create different and evolving rhythms
<06:34:12 overhtruster> with say
<06:34:15 Svetlana> it's not like a pattern limit of 64 rows hinders algorithms in any way
<06:34:23 overhtruster> 100 or 120 per pattern
<06:35:04 overhtruster> yeah but procedural probably infers generative music
<06:35:06 Svetlana> that's some fucked up structure
<06:35:19 overhtruster> im assuming anyway
<06:35:22 Svetlana> you'd want powers of 2
<06:35:28 Svetlana> 32 64 128 256
<06:35:36 Jangler> if you like 4/4, that is...
<06:35:46 Svetlana> even if you were limited to 64 it's not like you can't use more than one pattern
<06:35:46 overhtruster> i had done some generative stuff basically that just had the different patterns lengths
<06:35:51 overhtruster> so each track didnt line up
<06:36:01 overhtruster> eventually, like after 100 hours it may have lined up
<06:36:01 Svetlana> sounds horrible
<06:36:12 overhtruster> it sounded like autechre but catchier
<06:36:21 overhtruster> i was also attempting to make generative music actually listenable
<06:36:28 Jangler> oh well this is more like an "expert systems" type algorithm than a permutations-type thing
<06:36:29 overhtruster> instead of just dumb notes played by mice or whatever
<06:36:37 overhtruster> oh ok
<06:36:44 Jangler> it will know a bunch about music theory and stuff
<06:36:52 overhtruster> oh i see what you are saying
<06:37:08 overhtruster> i would like to hear it have more time sigs than just 4/4
<06:37:10 overhtruster> personally
<06:37:12 Svetlana> i'm still confused about why Jangler couldn't use 64 rows
<06:37:26 overhtruster> well i assumed it was going to be more generative type stuff
<06:37:33 Svetlana> so?
<06:37:43 overhtruster> and one of the easiest ways to make things not repeat is to have different pattern lengths etc
<06:37:44 Svetlana> less rows: use Dxx
<06:37:48 Svetlana> more rows: use another pattern
<06:37:49 overhtruster> "phase music" etc
<06:37:53 Svetlana> not rocket science
<06:37:57 Jangler> yeah i get what you're saying overhtruster
<06:38:00 overhtruster> YEAH BUT HE IS HAVING A PROGRAM MAKING IT FOOL
<06:38:14 Svetlana> IF ROWS < 64 THEN DXX
<06:38:20 overhtruster> it must be rocket science if its so difficult to explain to you
<06:38:28 Svetlana> IF ROWS > 64 PATTERN.NEW()
<06:38:33 Svetlana> there
<06:38:37 Svetlana> i made a program
<06:38:47 Jangler> somewhere i think i have a java program that improvises MIDI based on a text file of parameters
<06:38:57 Jangler> but it's a couple years old and doesn't sound that great
<06:39:03 overhtruster> well that is the thing
<06:39:13 overhtruster> usually algorithmic music sounds shitty or something
<06:39:23 overhtruster> i did hear some made from basic bach theory that was ALRIGHT
<06:39:42 overhtruster> but also its like well now a computer can make what humans made like 500 years ago
<06:40:45 overhtruster> svetlana how do you make triplets in .xm
<06:41:10 Svetlana> edx
<06:42:29 Jangler> did not know that
<06:42:40 overhtruster> isnt e the retrigger
<06:42:54 overhtruster> i mean like notes that are triplets
<06:43:01 lainlives> litestep kicks ass
<06:43:05 Svetlana> 9xx retrigger
<06:43:09 Svetlana> edx note delay
<06:43:15 overhtruster> oh i see
<06:43:20 Svetlana> ecx note cut after x ticks
<06:43:29 Svetlana> those are all .MOD effects
<06:44:16 Strobe> E9X is retrigger!
<06:44:28 Strobe> 9xx is offset! :)))
<06:44:29 Svetlana> i thought E9x was retrigger mode
<06:44:33 Svetlana> oh you are right
<06:44:36 Svetlana> Rxx is XM retrigger
<06:44:39 Svetlana> i got confused
<06:45:05 overhtruster> hi strobe
<06:45:08 null1024> Rxy is actually retrigger with volume slide.
<06:45:14 Svetlana> it is?
<06:45:17 Jangler> LOL
<06:45:17 Svetlana> that is news to me
<06:45:27 overhtruster> woah that would be really easy to make delay sounds with etc
<06:45:38 overhtruster> or snare rushes
<06:45:42 Strobe> Rxy is neat, i abuse it all the time!
<06:45:48 overhtruster> are we talking .xm or .mod tho
<06:45:58 Svetlana> 0-F MOD
<06:46:04 Svetlana> anything other than that is XM
<06:46:08 null1024> yuuup
<06:46:20 Jangler> let's have a arpfest OHC sometime
<06:46:27 Jangler> you get one channel and one wave
<06:46:31 Jangler> arp your way to victory
<06:46:37 overhtruster> i would do that
<06:46:39 overhtruster> NOW
<06:46:43 overhtruster> WHO WANTS TO OHC NOW
<06:46:44 Jangler> i gotta sleep soon
<06:46:51 overhtruster> BLECH
<06:47:12 Slimeball> OHC? Sure. :D
<06:47:18 overhtruster> WHO ELSE
<06:47:21 overhtruster> STROBE OHC?
<06:47:48 overhtruster> u guys wanna do 1 channel 1 wave?
<06:47:57 Slimeball> That sounds cool
<06:48:05 overhtruster> ok we need a couple others
<06:49:13 shawn> hahaha i donno if i could do it
<06:50:01 Svetlana> i've done a 2ch1wave once
<06:50:06 Strobe> or 2 channels, 1 wave, no effects except for Speed and Volume!
<06:50:11 Svetlana> it's basically spectrum
<06:50:17 Strobe> tehe
<06:50:19 shawn> might as well do beepola
<06:50:21 Svetlana> aww no pitch :(
<06:50:24 shawn> if youre gonna go that ridiculous
<06:50:35 Svetlana> i'd rather use milkytracker since i'm used to it
<06:51:02 Jangler> well my intention was to use one channel only to encourage arpz
<06:51:08 Jangler> but i mean
<06:51:17 overhtruster> i dislike arps
<06:51:23 Jangler> i'm probly not participating so don't pay any attention to me
<06:51:30 overhtruster> they sound yuck and vgmmy
<06:51:45 Svetlana> i love arps
<06:51:57 overhtruster> THEY ARE CHEESEY
<06:52:50 Jangler> is there a name for arps that are instrument arps with more than one tick per pitch as opposed to 0xy arps?
<06:53:00 Jangler> in my head i always think of them as "fearofdark arps"
<06:55:16 Jangler> bedtime arps
<06:57:07 shawn> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ue8EpCjp5SM
<06:57:20 shawn> new stuff from dino
<07:01:24 puke7> sweet!
<07:02:21 puke7> lol no description
<07:02:25 Svetlana> overhtruster: http://soundcloud.com/syniphas/fri11mar-2a03-cover arps
<07:03:41 Svetlana> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/9435923/music/nsf/meanbusiness.nsf more arps
<07:05:01 overhtruster> BLECH
<07:05:14 Svetlana> :(
<07:05:17 overhtruster> I NEVER USE ARPS!
<07:05:26 overhtruster> you have good basslines on that 2a03 cover thou
<07:05:30 Svetlana> use more arps
<07:05:47 overhtruster> i just dont appreciate super sceney or vgmy stuff thats all
<07:06:28 Svetlana> then you are talking to the wrong person
<07:06:30 Svetlana> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/9435923/music/nsf/Micro Machines (1992)(Codemasters, Camerica).nsf
<07:06:33 TMAnna> http://scenes.at/niy4ib (URL by Svetlana)
<07:06:33 Svetlana> micro machines <3
<07:06:33 overhtruster> lol yeh
<07:06:45 Svetlana> matt grey was an arp lover
<07:06:52 Svetlana> why can't you be more like matt grey
<07:06:52 overhtruster> svet do u wanna ohc
<07:06:56 Svetlana> no
<07:06:58 overhtruster> does anyone wanna tonight
<07:07:09 overhtruster> i will go play video games then
<07:07:15 Svetlana> i want to do a swap compo but nobody wants a swap compo
<07:07:16 overhtruster> BLECH
<07:07:22 overhtruster> what is a swap compo
<07:07:37 Svetlana> you don't even know yet you're all blech this blech that
<07:07:41 Svetlana> well maybe i won't tell you
<07:07:44 Svetlana> !!!
<07:07:44 overhtruster> lol
<07:08:02 overhtruster> i should know? i have only been doing compos since like 2001 or whatever
<07:08:20 overhtruster> what do you mean by swap compo
<07:08:24 Svetlana> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/9435923/music/nsf/home.nsf more arp
<07:08:56 Svetlana> my first compo was in either late 2008 or early 2009
<07:09:26 Svetlana> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/9435923/music/nsf/how2count.nsf only a little bit of arp in the middle of this song
<07:09:40 overhtruster> im not listening to these or anything btw
<07:09:45 Svetlana> you should
<07:09:46 overhtruster> wat is swap compo
<07:09:55 Svetlana> it's a compo where you swap
<07:11:20 overhtruster> like you do the first part and then someone else gets your file and finishes it and you get someone elses ebginnig and finish it?
<07:11:37 Svetlana> yes
<07:11:54 overhtruster> i have never heard of ppl doing that, but its a cool idea
<07:12:08 null1024> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sylvania-7-Netbook-WindowsCE-Wi-Fi-Wireless-Mobile-Internet-Device-/261040633445?var what
<07:12:11 TMAnna> http://scenes.at/xt54ib (URL by null1024)
<07:12:24 Svetlana> windows embedded compact 7
<07:12:33 null1024> 128MB RAM
<07:12:36 null1024> Windows 7
<07:12:37 null1024> what
<07:12:38 overhtruster> you could even have it be swappped a handful of times thorugh different ppl
<07:12:48 overhtruster> like a QUADRUPLE SWAP COMPO
<07:12:49 Svetlana> overhtruster that is a collab
<07:13:14 overhtruster> you are saying a quadruple swap is a collab?
<07:13:28 Svetlana> impratical as an ohc
<07:13:36 overhtruster> nah
<07:13:36 Svetlana> one song made by a lot of people is a collab in my book
<07:13:45 overhtruster> i believe in its practicality for an ohc
<07:13:51 overhtruster> just have people switch at half an hour
<07:14:09 overhtruster> svetlana i wish i had your book
<07:14:12 overhtruster> cos i would BURN IT
<07:14:24 Svetlana> 4 people -> 4 sections -> half an hour for each section -> not one hour
<07:14:28 overhtruster> and then rewrite the book where its like "QUAD SWOP"
<07:14:30 Svetlana> great job at fucking up
<07:14:41 overhtruster> shut up svetlana you dumb jerk
<07:14:46 Svetlana> shut up
<07:14:53 overhtruster> it would only be a single swaop for a ohb
<07:14:59 overhtruster> YOU FUCKED UP NOT ME
<07:15:06 Svetlana> null1024 that's probably not even windows 7
<07:15:11 Svetlana> just like a new version of wince
<07:15:25 Svetlana> probably doesn't run shit but 10 year old palm programs
<07:15:29 Svetlana> who would even want that
<07:16:20 Svetlana> good riddance
<07:16:53 Svetlana> I'V BEN COMPOING SINSE 1936 WATS SWOP CAMP DERR QUAD SWAP
<07:16:58 Svetlana> jerk
<07:23:44 Svetlana> oh duke nukem critical mass got released last year
<07:24:06 Svetlana> i guess it was so bad nobody even made a fuss about it
<07:25:06 Svetlana> haha ok
<07:25:17 Svetlana> it just manhattan project
<07:25:23 Svetlana> except worse
<07:25:45 Svetlana> jesus christ
<07:29:40 null1024> http://theoatmeal.com/comics/game_of_thrones heh
<07:29:49 null1024> also, yeah, that craptop has WinCE
<07:29:58 null1024> at least it runs milky maybe ;3
<07:30:05 Svetlana> yeah
<07:30:16 null1024> actually, is WinCE still a supported platform for Milky?
<07:30:20 null1024> it has been so long
<07:30:23 Svetlana> probably
<07:30:31 Svetlana> i wish it had an android version :(
<07:31:38 null1024> it does, and it is the worst
<07:31:49 null1024> unless you plug in a USB mouse and keyboard
<07:31:57 null1024> [or bluetooth or whatever]
<07:32:20 null1024> and at that point, I might as well just pull out my netbook
<07:32:22 Svetlana> no it doesn't
<07:32:28 Svetlana> the android port is unofficial
<07:32:29 Svetlana> and horrible
<07:32:33 Svetlana> and doesn't support keyboard
<07:32:40 Svetlana> at least not my cellphone's keyboard
<07:32:45 Svetlana> and it's the pocketpc version
<07:32:48 null1024> it supports normal IME based input
<07:32:51 Svetlana> i want the actual version
<07:32:54 Svetlana> didn't support mine
<07:33:01 Svetlana> milestone 2 here with hardware keyboard
<07:33:09 null1024> :O
<07:33:58 null1024> speaking of android, what is a not completely ass PS1 emulator for it?
<07:34:09 null1024> Xperia Play here ;3
<07:35:05 null1024> AT
<07:35:13 null1024> so I got one
<07:35:33 null1024> they are rather slow if you don't root them and set the clock speed to always be 1GHz
<07:36:29 Svetlana> lol xperia play
<07:36:49 null1024> like I said, cheap as fuck for me
<07:37:26 null1024> it felt good to hand the cashier a dollar and get a phone
<07:37:40 null1024> almost better than it being free [but of course, not better than free ;D]
<07:37:56 Svetlana> lol
<07:38:10 null1024> well, it was a dollar and change because of tax
<07:38:24 Svetlana> yeah mine was pretty expensive when i got it and the price is considerably less today, but i still feel like it was worth it
<07:38:47 Svetlana> (plus i wanted a cheaper one, my dad is the one responsible for actually getting the better-and-more-expensive model >_>)
<07:38:56 null1024> to be honest, since I don't even really use the thing as a phone too much, getting the Xperia Play was good
<07:39:03 null1024> it is more of a portable megadrive
<07:39:08 Svetlana> haha
<07:39:10 Svetlana> yes mine too
<07:39:23 null1024> and I was playing Chrono Trigger for a bit on it and Seiken Densetsu 3
<07:39:31 null1024> 90s Square at their best ;3
<07:39:32 Svetlana> portable sms/gg/gen/nes/snes/n64/ps1
<07:39:39 null1024> well, n64 kind of sucks on it
<07:39:47 null1024> although, I can play F-Zero X
<07:39:48 Svetlana> mine runs pretty well
<07:39:51 Svetlana> i can pl-- yeah
<07:39:51 null1024> [that's about it]
<07:39:59 Svetlana> haven't really tried anything else
<07:40:12 null1024> Smash Bros has horrible texture issues [likely the emu]
<07:40:28 null1024> and either way, the framerate is somewhat ass [even though it frameskips]
<07:40:34 Svetlana> yeah it doesn't seem like it's based on a very good emulator
<07:40:44 Svetlana> but that was probably a decision to cut down on cpu and stuff
<07:40:53 null1024> ja
<07:40:59 Svetlana> f-zero runs pretty much fullspeed from what i recall playing it
<07:41:11 null1024> also, the official Sony PS1 emulator for the thing is inaccurate as fuck
<07:41:21 Svetlana> like, not 100% of the time but, you know, 80-100%
<07:41:22 null1024> there is a way to load your own ISOs into it
<07:41:38 null1024> so much shit doesn't work/has asstons of issues
<07:41:40 Svetlana> i use fpse
<07:41:44 Svetlana> i think that's the name
<07:42:00 null1024> FPSE? I'll check it out.
<07:42:08 Svetlana> yeah FPse
<07:42:20 Svetlana> played rally cross and crash 3 on it
<07:42:27 null1024> Hopefully it runs Wipeout 3, this other one runs it but is so inaccurate that the physics are wrong :DDD
<07:42:29 Svetlana> ran about 80-90%
<07:42:41 Svetlana> how can you mess up the physics wow
<07:42:53 Svetlana> you'd think the game would just not run if it was inaccurate to that point
<07:43:08 null1024> nah, lazy emulation of math related stuff
<07:43:21 null1024> a couple older PS1 emulators had issues like that
<07:44:17 Svetlana> but yeah
<07:44:29 Svetlana> wish there was android support for milky
<07:44:31 null1024> and they aren't unplayable, just totally wrong [notably, I shouldn't go flying off the track whenever I go over a boost jump]
<07:44:43 null1024> yeah, milky/droid would be amaaaazing
<07:45:28 Svetlana> hah
<07:45:36 null1024> if I'm on the go and feel like musicing, I have to use my DS and Korg DS-10
<07:45:37 Svetlana> there's a news post from 2 months ago
<07:45:48 Svetlana> samples and instruments added to download page
<07:45:55 null1024> :O
<07:47:20 null1024> man, there is an OHC, but I can't be arsed to ass out an assentry
<07:47:39 Svetlana> !ohc
<07:48:09 null1024> !compo
<07:48:15 null1024> it is long over
<07:48:25 Svetlana> :: voting deadline ::
<07:48:36 null1024> but late entries are still a thing with a /Submit/
<07:48:48 null1024> ;3
<07:48:49 Svetlana> :: voting deadline ::
<07:48:57 Wing> you'll lose serious points if you late-enter ;)
<07:49:04 Svetlana> not really
<07:49:09 Svetlana> i don't think that was ever implemented
<07:49:10 null1024> you don't
<07:49:14 Slimeball> :O
<07:49:15 Wing> :o
<07:49:18 Wing> seriously?
<07:49:31 null1024> you only lose submission points, as in XXX recieved 5 sexist points
<07:49:35 null1024> ;3
<07:49:42 Wing> aaaah
<07:49:45 null1024> you don't lose score
<07:49:50 null1024> and it never goes negative
<07:49:50 Svetlana> i'm really proud of my track in that och
<07:49:52 Svetlana> ohc
<07:50:14 null1024> my favorite OHC track ever was in one that only had 2 entrants
<07:51:34 Svetlana> 27% kiarchive.zip
<07:51:42 Svetlana> 30%
<07:51:46 Svetlana> ETA 8m
<07:51:51 Svetlana> 557 MB
<07:51:56 null1024> internet jeaaaaaah
<07:52:19 Svetlana> approx 750 kB/s
<07:52:36 Svetlana> my top speed is 1 MB/s
<07:52:45 Svetlana> so this is going pretty fast
<07:52:56 Svetlana> oh ok it just jumped to 1 MB/s
<07:54:03 null1024> 2MB/s here, although that's only if I'm on something with 9001 seeds or something
<07:54:09 null1024> otherwise, I get ass speeds
<07:54:27 null1024> also, Crazy Taxi
<07:54:30 null1024> I got it today
<07:54:41 null1024> and then I had to fix my Dreamcast
<07:54:51 null1024> and then I played more Crazy Taxi
<07:54:59 null1024> so fuuuun
<07:55:02 Svetlana> d/ling from 12 peers here
<07:55:18 Strobe> pfffff, anything less than 12MB/s is for ladies and ui's!
<07:55:41 null1024> go sex a karp, Strobe
<07:55:45 null1024> I mean, hello
<07:55:45 null1024> ;3
<07:55:48 Strobe> oh hi!
<07:55:53 null1024> a magikarp
<07:56:02 null1024> as it becomes a gyarados
<07:56:19 null1024> 4 sex it
<07:56:22 Strobe> next month i have the upgraded internetz
<07:56:23 Svetlana> i hate it when people upload a single track from a game OST on youtube
<07:56:28 Svetlana> it's never the track i'm looking for
<07:56:54 null1024> Strobe: your internets are silly fast
<07:57:20 null1024> I am in the Americas, where unless you pay out the ass, you have assnets
<07:57:51 Strobe> do people have money in their ass over there?
<07:57:55 null1024> yes
<07:58:01 null1024> the banks are all corrupt
<07:58:01 Strobe> im so moving to the US
<07:58:04 null1024> so we use our asses
<07:58:10 Strobe> i want to have money in my ass
<07:58:15 null1024> ;3
<07:58:20 Svetlana> Format: Exotic music formats for Amiga (Amiga Exotic) [Format: Amiga Exotic]
<07:58:21 Svetlana> :(
<07:58:38 Svetlana> i want .mods :( :(
<07:59:12 Strobe> i will shell out around 50$ per month for 250/100
<07:59:18 Strobe> fully acceptable
<07:59:26 null1024> wants to know if there is a .mod of the song used in State of the Art *
<07:59:26 Svetlana> kiarchive.zip has finished downloading
<07:59:38 null1024> also, I like how I couldn't remember the name
<07:59:46 null1024> so I googled "dancing people demo amiga"
<07:59:49 null1024> ;D
<08:00:05 Strobe> there are 2 mods in that demo!
<08:00:20 null1024> gimmegimmegimme
<08:01:11 Svetlana> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjyI0HK9lZ0#t=100s
<08:01:21 Svetlana> i love this song
<08:02:37 null1024> I like how the game uses gradient backgrounds so it doesn't need horizontal parallax.
<08:02:43 Svetlana> :D
<08:03:22 Strobe> null1024 http://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid
<08:03:26 Strobe> should be the correct one
<08:04:07 null1024> yessss
<08:04:14 null1024> Thank you Strobe!
<08:04:24 Strobe> NOW KISS ME ON THE LIPS
<08:04:47 null1024> kk
<08:04:49 null1024> ;3
<08:04:58 null1024> they will be my ass lips
<08:05:04 Strobe> ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
<08:05:10 null1024> aw, baby
<08:05:14 null1024> thought you were into that
<08:05:18 null1024> >>>;D
<08:05:25 Strobe> Only if its a girl!
<08:05:31 null1024> :3
<08:05:38 Strobe> No boy ass kissing here!
<08:05:41 null1024> kk
<08:05:52 Strobe> unless im really drunk i guess
<08:05:55 Strobe> hick *
<08:07:15 null1024> if you don't be careful with the drink, the netsåöot will get you!
<08:07:48 Strobe> ahahhahahhaah
<08:07:51 Strobe> oh noes!
<08:08:03 Strobe> the big bad netsåöot
<08:08:06 Strobe> my worst nightmare
<08:12:47 null1024> ooh, the module uses a few cute tricks to have effectively more than 31 samples in a MOD
<08:13:20 null1024> like putting multiple samples together into one big one [not mixed, but one after the other]
<08:13:31 null1024> and using 9xx to pick
<08:15:23 Svetlana> wow this archive is really good
<08:15:32 Svetlana> all .xis, some with multiple samples
<08:18:03 Svetlana> oh yes there's a clavinet
<09:38:41 lainlives> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25714451/Flaggelum.mp3
<09:38:52 lainlives> DO YOU HAVE A BIG PENIS
<09:39:44 lainlives> VAGINA PUSSY
<09:39:48 boomlinde> !compo
<11:14:53 easterbunny> branston's pickle on everything
<13:44:42 easterbunny> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/68828237/warphoto.PNG !!!
<13:52:01 neuro_sys> Stoner chip
<13:52:11 easterbunny> stoner chip
<13:52:26 neuro_sys> chip kebab
<13:55:44 lunar> stoner step
<13:57:42 Strobe> MARK HENRY STEP
<13:58:09 easterbunny> :)))
<13:58:34 Strobe> :OOO
<14:54:35 boomlapt1p> jesus hell
<14:54:44 boomlapt1p> voting works
<14:55:00 boomlapt1p> everybody vote on the rock compo
<14:56:54 boomlapt1p> or else!
<14:56:58 boomlapt1p> !compo
<15:27:57 chocosaurus> headphone splitter
<15:28:03 chocosaurus> a headphone splitter costs 75p
<15:28:08 LoneStar> aka small axe
<15:28:17 LoneStar> splits headphones all nicely
<15:28:22 lunar> foreskin splitter
<15:28:59 chocosaurus> i bought three heapdhone splitters when i only need one
<15:29:28 chocosaurus> at the moment i have a thing that splits a stereo connection in to left and right and i have left going my speakers and right going to my headphones
<15:29:33 chocosaurus> it's really not ideal
<15:30:22 Haschim> hm, there are splitters that will split a signal into two while it still remains stereo for both
<15:30:26 chocosaurus> yeah
<15:30:30 chocosaurus> that's what i just bought
<15:30:53 Haschim> i like them
<15:32:45 Haschim> beseechthepeach is really great :D
<15:35:15 lunar> i have two headphone splitters
<15:35:29 lunar> my casio, sound module and TV audio are all daisychained into my soundcard's line in
<15:35:38 chocosaurus> my external soundcard died today that is the second one that died in the last few months
<15:35:42 lunar> it works ok but i can't use them all simultaneously
<15:35:56 chocosaurus> so i give up on them and will just use the internal sound
<15:36:11 Haschim> :(
<15:36:18 chocosaurus> oh, you are using splitters for many inputs ratehr than many outputs
<15:36:21 chocosaurus> you need a MIXER
<15:36:33 lunar> i do need a mixer but they're expensive
<15:36:37 lunar> and also need a power supply
<15:36:46 lunar> i don't wanna have to turn any more shit on in here
<15:37:37 LoneStar> using splitters for splitting INPUTS?
<15:37:40 LoneStar> are you crazy?
<15:37:48 lunar> maybe :)
<15:37:54 LoneStar> that's so totally wrong
<15:38:13 lunar> but that's slightly less crazy than having to reach behind the computer every time i want to change the device that's plugged in
<15:38:20 LoneStar> if stuff doesn't break, then the only reason is that the outputs involved are short circuit proof :P
<15:39:33 lunar> in truth i don't really need my casio and TV plugged into the line in. it's just an option for when i do
<15:43:46 chocosaurus> i think you can get a cheapo mixer for like £30
<15:44:04 chocosaurus> it might only last a few months because it's cheapo
<15:44:16 LoneStar> nah
<15:44:20 LoneStar> it usually lasts a year
<15:44:25 LoneStar> warranty period ;)
<15:44:58 Haschim> old ones last forever
<15:45:07 LoneStar> yes
<15:45:10 Haschim> buy a used one ;D
<15:45:17 LoneStar> stuff built before the age of disposable gear
<15:45:43 LoneStar> seriously, studio gear made in the 80s and 90s lasts forever
<15:45:57 LoneStar> when I touch some newer synths I doubt that
<15:46:38 lunar> i imagine mixers don't change that much either
<15:46:41 lunar> maybe some newer ports
<15:46:44 lunar> but they have a simple job
<15:47:21 LoneStar> the only real change the last years was the integration of audio interfaces into certain types of mixers
<15:47:36 LoneStar> and better parts, better materials etc ofc
<15:47:40 chocosaurus> DIGITAL EFFECTS
<15:47:43 LoneStar> IF they decide to use it :P
<15:47:48 LoneStar> haha
<15:47:53 LoneStar> no serious mixer has fx
<15:47:54 LoneStar> XD
<15:48:04 chocosaurus> some dj ones do
<15:48:05 LoneStar> at least not the analogue ones
<15:48:16 LoneStar> well yes but we're talking about studio stuff aren't we
<15:48:40 chocosaurus> well i thought it was just general mixer chats
<15:48:55 LoneStar> and even on DJ mixers it's similar: the very top of the range is made up solely of fx-less mixers
<15:49:14 chocosaurus> i'd quite like a mixer but on the other hand it's just a big piece of electronics that is going to become clutter and i will regret it in a few months
<15:49:19 chocosaurus> either that or it breaks in a few months
<15:49:46 chocosaurus> better to make do with a minimal amount of stuff
<15:50:26 chocosaurus> all my amazon recommendations are books about how it's good to be an introvert, THANKS LUNAR
<15:51:32 lunar> better recognise bitch
<15:53:25 Haschim> it's good to be able to be either an introvert or extrovert, depending on the situation
<15:54:03 Haschim> it's just 2 skill sets and most people will only ever acquire one
<15:54:45 chocosaurus> The Introvert Advantage, The Highly Sensitive Person: How To Survive And Thrive When The World Overwhelms You, Introvert Power: Why Your Inner Life Is Your Hidden Strength, Networking For People Who Hate Networking: A Field Guide For Introverts, The Overwhelmed And The Underconnected, The Introverted Leader: Building On Your Quiet Strength, Happy Introvert: A Wild And Crazy Guide To Celebrating Your True Self
<15:56:53 Haschim> it's all bs in my opinion. if people would want to believe something (f.e. that it's good to be an introvert), you can earn lots of money by selling arguments that support that belief
<16:05:06 lunar> that's two separate issues
<16:05:49 lunar> people will seize an opportunity to make profit, that doesn't mean it's disingenuous
<16:06:25 lunar> it is good and ok to be an introvert, dwi
<16:07:22 lunar> you can basically discredit the honesty and integrity of everything by looking at the financial side
<16:07:50 lunar> i guess fiction writers don't really care, they're just trying to mug off people interested in that sort of thing for profit
<16:08:33 Haschim> yes, it doesn't mean it's disingenuous
<16:08:34 lunar> i guess video game developers aren't passionate about their craft at all, they just want your money so they can go spend it on other things that other people made to mug THEM off
<16:09:24 Haschim> my point is the amount of books and material on why it's good to be an introvert should be explained rather by the claim i've made than it actually being true
<16:10:36 lunar> if you want a serious debate about it you could look at some highly successful introverts/hermits
<16:10:57 lunar> and ask yourself whether they would have been successful if they hadn't spent long periods in solitude and contemplation
<16:11:06 Haschim> whether it's true is a very seperate issue. i'd say it can't be objectively true because whether it's better to be introvert depends on your criteria of judging what constitutes a good human being
<16:11:37 lunar> i don't think it is better
<16:11:55 Haschim> how about you look at some successful extroverts and do the same. this is cherry picking. as is buying books on why it's good to be an introvert and never read one of the opposite view
<16:13:04 lunar> it's good to be an introvert and good to be an extrovert, it is not about one being better than the other, it is about playing up to strengths
<16:13:13 Haschim> you can argue the same way about christianity
<16:13:31 Haschim> oh, i think that's a good opinion ^^
<16:14:01 lunar> the point is introverts who are trying to work out how to enable themselves to be successful aren't going to be interested in reading a book about how extroverts are great in all ways and they should just change or kill themselves.
<16:14:16 lunar> i am not sure what the problem is
<16:14:19 lunar> people want to improve themselves
<16:14:22 lunar> in all kinds of ways
<16:14:53 Haschim> the problem is that you might make a less objective judgement than you are capable of. it's a very minor one
<16:15:04 lunar> who cares if it's objective when you're dealing with YOURSELF
<16:15:10 lunar> this isn't a debate, it's a personal choice
<16:15:23 lunar> there is no objective
<16:15:26 lunar> the entire area is purely subjective
<16:15:52 Haschim> i think it'd be beneficial to everybody if they rather believed in truths than what they want to believe to make them feel good
<16:16:25 lunar> i don't believe the books are lying. and i dare say there are issues extroverts face as well
<16:16:41 lunar> (though they are less likely to READ a BOOK to deal with it)
<16:16:53 Haschim> of course, i totally agree with your opinion that there are pros and cons to both
<16:18:17 chocosaurus> i don't think the books are telling you that being an introvert is better? they are just telling you how you can make the most of your life when you are already an introver
<16:18:18 chocosaurus> t
<16:18:51 Haschim> judging by the titles i suspected some to do the former
<16:19:10 lunar> yeah it's about empowering yourself
<16:19:31 lunar> the thing about self help is it isn't an exact science, because people's personalities aren't an exact science either
<16:19:42 LoneStar> Haschim, it seems you are confusing praise of one thing with bashing the other
<16:19:46 lunar> at least not in any way we understand
<16:20:13 Haschim> not really, no
<16:20:22 Haschim> @lonestar
<16:31:15 chocosaurus> hello introverts
<16:52:53 chocosaurus> here's my song https://dl.dropbox.com/u/14990225/glacier1.mp3
<17:11:57 lunar> i am trying to remake a famitracker song in logic
<17:12:05 lunar> it's a big pain in the glutes :C
<17:15:50 chocosaurus> oh a big pain in the glutes
<17:16:31 lunar> in not just one glute but both glutes
<17:16:36 lunar> nice song btw
<17:17:37 chocosaurus> thansk
<17:17:48 chocosaurus> it's unfinished i guess
<17:17:55 chocosaurus> but i can't think of anything else to add
<17:17:59 chocosaurus> it's hard to write music
<17:20:29 lunar> bass and drums and arps and then a melody and then a counter melody and then the occasional bell thing and then weird noises
<17:22:23 chocosaurus> that's a song
<17:29:34 puke7> woop woop
<17:29:35 puke7> wake up
<17:29:37 puke7> go to work
<17:30:31 puke7> chocosaurus you're songs make me laugh
<17:30:54 puke7> tho this glacier1 lacks your usual musical crassness
<17:31:09 puke7> so i am not laughing at it
<17:31:23 chocosaurus> aw
<17:31:27 chocosaurus> yes it's not that funny this time
<17:55:30 easterbunny> corundum waffle
<17:57:46 lunar> chocosaurus: http://liberalconspiracy.org/2012/06/18/boris-johnson-i-want-supreme-power-in-england/
<17:57:48 TMAnna> http://scenes.at/tyi6ib (URL by lunar)
<17:57:57 lunar> boris johnson think's he is a "libertarian anarcho-tory"
<17:58:02 lunar> thinks^
<17:58:12 chocosaurus> wow
<17:58:23 chocosaurus> a libertarian anarcho-tory
<17:58:41 lunar> never change, boris-san
<17:59:38 chocosaurus> a libertarian anarcho-tory who wants to assume supreme power over england
<18:05:50 lunar> ;p
<18:08:51 chocosaurus> "people need and want to be governed [by me]" says boris
<18:36:19 easterbunny> punnet full of d20 fruit
<18:46:39 dorostorov> pick your own
<19:13:44 Haschim> it's very hard to breathe with a hairdryer blowing into your nose
<19:36:12 SoiledBargains> votin' *
<19:37:46 SoiledBargains> i first submitted...
<19:38:06 SoiledBargains> Is this original? Because it sounds like a lot of time was spent on it!
<19:38:21 SoiledBargains> Either that, or someone knows this pack really well.
<19:39:27 easterbunny> it had too many samples right
<19:39:34 easterbunny> the it i got just had seven samples
<19:39:45 SoiledBargains> :o ?
<19:40:36 SoiledBargains> is looping beseechthepeach *
<19:41:49 SoiledBargains> boomlinde, thank you for doing a 24 hour voting OHC!
<19:44:52 easterbunny> soiledbargains https://dl.dropbox.com/u/68828237/slapbrassicas.it
<19:45:20 SoiledBargains> (oh, that comment was unrelated)
<19:45:28 SoiledBargains> I guess I'll listen.
<19:47:00 easterbunny> it is pinnacle of trackermusi
<19:49:16 Grumskiz> hrm...gotta learn how to use deaflmask (or whatever its called9
<19:50:57 SoiledBargains> !SaveD!
<19:53:38 SoiledBargains> listened to slapbrassicas.it *
<19:54:03 easterbunny> now you never need to listen to any more music
<19:54:43 SoiledBargains> heh
<19:55:10 SoiledBargains> xterm says :: BUTT HASH
<19:57:46 nys> trent bash
<20:08:42 b-bO__Obz> so I guess Linda isn't going to close voting
<20:08:49 b-bO__Obz> i wonder if it will auto-tally?
<20:08:56 b-bO__Obz> *Linde
<20:09:02 SoiledBargains> heh, Linda
<20:09:04 b-bO__Obz> stupid autocerrect clinet!! :X
<20:09:09 SoiledBargains> Me too!
<20:09:10 b-bO__Obz> fix clinet == client
<20:09:23 SoiledBargains> haha
<20:09:59 nys> linda #boom
<20:10:37 b-bO__Obz> there
<20:10:46 b-bO__Obz> disabled spellchecker \:D/
<20:20:02 SoiledBargains> Well, I gotta get going. Good luck entrants, and thanks for the extended voting!
<20:37:45 easterbunny> thanks for the extended viking
<21:01:01 dorostorov> it's hard to watch the football when you are asleep
<21:06:52 Haschim> are they playing soccer again?
<21:10:35 lunar> footbool M8
<21:10:50 lunar> instead of kicking the ball they should throw it
<21:10:50 lunar> and it should be made of steel
<21:11:00 lunar> and everyone should wear steel bodyarmour
<21:11:09 neuro-sys> and wield swords
<21:11:24 lunar> also kicking and punching people should be legal
<21:11:29 easterbunny> and you should be able to electrify the ball on ze sidelines
<21:11:52 lunar> yes, and for bonus points you should be able to throw the ball at stars, and through multipliers
<21:12:03 easterbunny> :)
<21:13:53 lunar> i wonder if i should watch the fo- no best not.
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