Winter Chip XIV

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Level 16 Chipist
post #106154 :: 2018.12.22 4:58pm
  GudPiggeh, ipi and petet hæitd this
Level 23 Chipist
post #106155 :: 2018.12.22 4:58pm
  GudPiggeh, Slimeball, Sinc-X and puke7 liēkd this
Level 25 Mixist
post #106156 :: 2018.12.22 4:58pm :: edit 2018.12.22 4:59pm
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Level 16 Chipist
post #106157 :: 2018.12.22 4:59pm :: edit 2018.12.22 4:59pm
Level 25 Taggist
post #106158 :: 2018.12.22 4:59pm :: edit 2019.01.13 7:32am
  sethdonut and MiDoRi liēkd this
I'M READY!!!!!!

Here's my TodoList:
[ ] AdLib
[ ] aym
[ ] Battle Art
[ ] Gameboy
[ ] mod12k
[ ] mod24k
[ ] nsf
[ ] sgen
[ ] SNES
[ ] tia

[x] PC Engine
[x] MIDI
[x] Chan F
[x] SMS
[x] pixel
[x] zxbeep
[x] nsfc
[x] pcx801
[x] fsound
[x] mod8k
[x] mariopaint
[x] Vic20
[x] TED
[x] ANSI
[x] C64
Level 16 Chipist
post #106159 :: 2018.12.22 5:04pm
i call dibs on snes btw
Level 21 Chipist
post #106160 :: 2018.12.22 5:12pm :: edit 2019.01.11 4:31pm
  Yung Gotenks and kleeder liēkd this
Let's see if I can beat my last record of 13 entries!

Also here's my wishlist of formats:
Any xk module formats
Thank you, Puke!

List of music formats I have yet to conquer:
[ ] Adlib
[ ] PC-Engine
[ ] Game Boy
[x] VIC-20
[ ] Sega Genesis
[ ] Plus/4 TED
[ ] C64 SID
[ ] fSound
[x] 24k module

How many of the other formats can I also go for?
[x] NSFc
[ ] NSF
[ ] SNES
[ ] 8k module
[x] 12k module
[ ] MIDI
[ ] PC-x801
[ ] AY/YM
[x] Mario Paint
[x] Sega Master System
[x] ZX Spectrum Beeper
[x] Atari TIA
Level 13 Chipist
post #106161 :: 2018.12.22 5:28pm
  Slimeball, Yung Gotenks, Galgox, MiDoRi and kleeder liēkd this
hey, please add pandatracker, thanks
Level 23 Chipist
post #106162 :: 2018.12.22 5:30pm
  raphaelgoulart, Savestate, Slimeball and kleeder liēkd this
hey, super cool and all that we got all this nice formats this year. (thank you, thanks!) yes. that's great, but please add every format, i need a wide range of diversity because i'm so indecisive. thank you for your consideration (thank you, thanks!).
Level 16 Chipist
post #106165 :: 2018.12.22 7:00pm :: edit 2019.01.18 6:11am
  kleeder liēkd this
To-Do list:
VIC-20 [X]
ChanF [X]
fSound [X]
12K [X]
PC-x801 [X]
ANSI Art []
8K [X]
PCE []
(maybe) NSF/NSFC []
(maybe) Adlib []
Level 9 Chipist
post #106166 :: 2018.12.22 7:11pm
  Flaminglog, MiDoRi, pandavova, Yung Gotenks, Tobikomi, Galgox and kleeder liēkd this
Ooh cool! Many chances for me to make really bad music!
Level 20 Chipist
post #106168 :: 2018.12.22 7:47pm :: edit 2018.12.22 7:53pm
  Galgox liēkd this
2A03+ Exp
Adlib could add MPTM Support
Level 25 Chipist
post #106170 :: 2018.12.22 7:49pm :: edit 2018.12.22 8:19pm
  Flaminglog, kleeder, Yung Gotenks and Galgox liēkd this
How about adding that TED Format!

(What? Were you expecting me to yell out an ATARI format?)

EDIT: Oh yeah, Wildchip!
Level 27 Mixist
post #106171 :: 2018.12.22 8:55pm
  MiDoRi hæitd this
  Flaminglog liēkd this
Where is wildchip
Level 25 Mixist
post #106172 :: 2018.12.22 8:57pm
[ ] midi
[ ] nsf
[ ] vic20

these were the ingredients chosen to create the perfect little gi--
Level 23 Chipist
post #106177 :: 2018.12.23 5:18am :: edit 2019.01.18 2:10am
  MiDoRi and Sinc-X liēkd this
[ ] AdLib
[ ] Channel F
[x] Gameboy
[x] PC-E
[ ] MIDI
[x] 2a03
[x] NES Classic
[ ] SNES
[ ] VIC 20
[x] Beeper
I'm being very optimistic this time around. I'd love Amiga MOD and C64 as formats too, but *shrug*

[x] SMS
[x] 24k (that's a lot of space)
Level 23 Chipist
post #106180 :: 2018.12.23 6:29am
  MiDoRi hæitd this
  Jimmyoshi liēkd this
Where is wildchip (2)
Level 30 chipist
post #106182 :: 2018.12.23 6:51am
  Slimeball and Sinc-X liēkd this
beardo here is my christmas list:


that's it
Level 17 Chipist
post #106185 :: 2018.12.23 8:43am
no aym :(
Level 6 Chipist
post #106186 :: 2018.12.23 9:01am
  MiDoRi, Robyn and YQN liēkd this
I would very much like to make this my debut BotB compo! Any chance of C64 being made available? I have a couple of ideas that I’d like to piece together and share... Also, Super Famicom, yes, I think I’ll be having a go at that...
Level 17 Chipist
post #106188 :: 2018.12.23 9:52am
Aaaaah, bad timing, I'll be busy af.

Hope I'll have more time when voting starts and, if I'm very, very lucky, even squeeze an NSF or NSFc entry.
Level 28 Renderist
post #106199 :: 2018.12.23 1:47pm
  MiDoRi liēkd this

Level 26 Chipist
post #106200 :: 2018.12.23 1:48pm :: edit 2019.01.05 9:32am
  Savestate liēkd this
(gb) as a warmup to get used to defle workflow again
with a view to
Level 22 Chipist
post #106224 :: 2018.12.24 8:03am
  Yung Gotenks, Savestate, Torowin, Galgox, MiDoRi, kleeder and Robyn liēkd this
[ ] anything at all
Level 17 Chipist
post #106229 :: 2018.12.24 9:05am
  MiDoRi and Slimeball liēkd this
See you noobs on IRC! Take care (or don't, it's up to you!)
Level 23 Chipist
post #106234 :: 2018.12.24 11:27am
  Savestate, Sinc-X and Sintel liēkd this
Level 20 Pixelist
post #106256 :: 2018.12.25 4:46am
To Yuki: Your Winrar seems to be broken, you need more 7-zip
Level 16 Chipist
post #106272 :: 2018.12.25 8:45pm
  pedipanol, MiDoRi and Galgox liēkd this
add pc-x801 or a tracker module format please :3
Level 23 Chipist
post #106277 :: 2018.12.26 9:57am
  Sinc-X and MiDoRi liēkd this
ohhh, I hope Santa brings me the time and mental fortitude to at least do a MIDI or SMS this time. (I know he already did his thing yesterday and didn't bring me that, but I'm hoping he'll come back through.)
Level 18 Mixist
post #106284 :: 2018.12.26 10:07pm
Level 30 Chipist
post #106285 :: 2018.12.26 11:27pm
  gotoandplay, Sinc-X, kleeder, Yung Gotenks, A-zu-ra and Galgox liēkd this
*Wakes up from deep slumber* *groggy eyes*
Someone… mentioned…. winrar chyps….. I'll get my damn wankery-coat on..... *funnels down beer and coffee right into the small intestine*

Level 23 Chipist
post #106286 :: 2018.12.27 12:35am
  Strobe liēkd this
a strobecore?
in MY winter chips?

its more likely than oyu think

btw you can use samples in SAP
Level 13 Chipist
post #106287 :: 2018.12.27 3:57am
  Flaminglog, Tobikomi, gotoandplay, petet, Savestate, Galgox, kleeder, Strobe, Sinc-X and kfaraday liēkd this
Ho ho ho ,open up your door....after 10/11 Years of my last Competition entry here @ 3xTheme Chip ][ , i am back and hope ich got enough time to spend it to the WinterChip XIV, it would be an Honor for me :)

PS. can it be that I am here at age 50, the oldest at botb ^ ^
Level 30 Chipist
post #106289 :: 2018.12.27 5:22am
  Sly and kleeder liēkd this
Oohohohohoh, a Sly appears! Remember you from the old old BotB Days! :D
Level 13 Chipist
post #106295 :: 2018.12.27 10:42am
  Strobe liēkd this
Sure m8 , i remember too, and on your Tracks Je t´aime and Quaora System, sooo much ass kicking tracks :D
Level 29 Chipist
post #106298 :: 2018.12.27 11:04am :: edit 2018.12.27 11:05am
  gotoandplay and Yung Gotenks liēkd this
[ ] chanf
[ ] adlib

..... maybe
[ ] gb
[ ] snes
Level 13 Chipist
post #106299 :: 2018.12.27 11:15am
  MiDoRi, Galgox, Yung Gotenks, kleeder and Robyn hæitd this
oh, i just read the rules and notice, there is no Amiga. mod format, so I'm out of it
Level 9 Chipist
post #106314 :: 2018.12.27 11:51pm
what about aym?
Level 20 Pixelist
post #106318 :: 2018.12.28 1:48am
what about Adlib ;-;
Level 30 Chipist
post #106321 :: 2018.12.28 6:07am
  Slimeball, kleeder and Savestate liēkd this
Greetings my lovely little lollipops, were can a n00b find a Windows Binary for Sleizsa Trio that a this young nice boy can try out?

Thank you kindly for your inexhaustible help.
Level 29 Chipist
post #106322 :: 2018.12.28 6:52am :: edit 2018.12.28 6:53am
  Strobe and kleeder liēkd this
Sleizsa Trio Info
* BotB Thread
* GitHub Releases
Level 30 Chipist
post #106323 :: 2018.12.28 6:56am
  Galgox, MiDoRi, Savestate and kleeder liēkd this
Thank you kind deer! you are most lovely little deer!
Level 29 Chipist
post #106324 :: 2018.12.28 7:21am
  Galgox liēkd this
omg ~
Level 0 n00b
post #106332 :: 2018.12.28 9:10pm
  MiDoRi, kleeder and Sinc-X hæitd this
  epic_caterpillar and kfaraday liēkd this
Why the limited formats? I want to use my own tracker.
Level 15 Chipist
post #106346 :: 2018.12.30 6:10am
  Slimeball and Strobe liēkd this
i began writing a .it file for this then i noticed there wasn't a category for it. what can ya do
Level 30 Chipist
post #106347 :: 2018.12.30 6:31am
  kleeder liēkd this
Convert it to .* and hope it works!
Level 10 Criticist
post #106353 :: 2018.12.30 8:43am
convert it to snes
Level 15 Chipist
post #106355 :: 2018.12.30 9:13am
  Sintel liēkd this

here's my submission for the year
Level 30 Chipist
post #106361 :: 2018.12.30 10:56am
  MiDoRi, Slimeball and Galgox liēkd this
Good evening my Lovely Flomping Chiptastic Plumberjacks,
is it "legal" to crank up the refresh rate for SMS above 50-60Hz, to
say….. 200-300Hz, or would that be "cheating"?

//Worried BotBer
Level 29 Chipist
post #106362 :: 2018.12.30 11:02am
  kleeder liēkd this
i think as long as it plays on hardware it's fine
Level 30 Chipist
post #106363 :: 2018.12.30 11:21am
Well I... don't have any hardware to test on :( ….but I guess emulation kind of counts.
Level 30 chipist
post #106375 :: 2018.12.30 2:52pm
  MiDoRi, Robyn, ipi, Slimeball, Sinc-X, Strobe and kleeder liēkd this
hey strobe i've got some hardware you can test on :3
Level 26 Chipist
post #106378 :: 2018.12.30 4:11pm
  Savestate liēkd this
is this a sneventracker thing? i think tmm12 did something similar
and it appears they were able to get it working on stock hardware.

no luck on snoozetracker made stuff though, that tends to target the chip only and not the systems limitations
Level 27 Mixist
post #106413 :: 2019.01.01 1:06pm
  MiDoRi and Sinc-X hæitd this
There is still no wildchip.
Level 27 Chipist
post #106416 :: 2019.01.01 1:18pm
HMMMMM i wonder why
Level 27 Hostist
post #106434 :: 2019.01.02 2:27pm
  YQN, MiDoRi, Robyn, Yung Gotenks, Sintel, kleeder and Galgox liēkd this

mOAR 4mats 4 U nubs
Level 21 Chipist
post #106435 :: 2019.01.02 2:34pm
  kleeder liēkd this
3 xk tracker formats?! Thank you SO much <3
Level 25 Taggist
post #106436 :: 2019.01.02 2:46pm :: edit 2019.01.03 10:30am
i'm still missing my fsound, pukey :((

Level 13 Chipist
post #106438 :: 2019.01.02 3:16pm
  Robyn, MiDoRi and kleeder liēkd this
am i blind or where is pandatracker?
Level 25 Taggist
post #106439 :: 2019.01.02 3:20pm :: edit 2019.01.04 12:27pm
  Robyn hæitd this
  pandavova liēkd this
its available but your acc got a special ailment "not being able to submit to pandatracker in major battles". thats why you cant see it

edit: stop hæiting me robyn, all i said is 1000% true! >:(
Level 27 Mixist
post #106447 :: 2019.01.02 10:49pm :: edit 2019.01.02 10:51pm
  Robyn hæitd this
puke you accidentally forgot to include wildchip as one of those 4 new formats I mean yay mod24k
Level 30 Chipist
post #106449 :: 2019.01.03 4:03am
Uncle SID-N00b needz HALP. I'm having issues understanding how
filter delegation on channels work in DefleMask, for example
I have 1 instrument with filter enabled (and init enabled), it plays fine in channel 1.

I have Another instrument with filter enabled, but it wont filter
on channel 2 or 3. not even with 1401 for all channels,.

Do I have the wrong approach here? I basically want the filter envelope to work for all channels, not just the first one.

plz halp
Level 30 Chipist
post #106450 :: 2019.01.03 4:04am
For the record, the filter works for ALL channels if i use the first instrument with filter init, but that resets the envelope,
and that is what im trying to avoid.
Level 11 Chipist
post #106453 :: 2019.01.03 6:00am :: edit 2019.01.03 6:02am
  Strobe liēkd this
@Strobe if you wanna deactivate filter on a certain channel in Defle, I believe you need to mark the option "apply filter to instrument", but with no filter activated 'on the target instrument'. I'm not totally sure, since I barely use the C64 side of Deflemask. Honestly, you really should go with GoatTracker. It's not that hard to learn :P
Level 30 Chipist
post #106454 :: 2019.01.03 6:10am
I have fiddled a bit with GoatTracker Before, so that is my second option if I can't get this to work properly, it is just easier for me to use DefleMask at the moment since i'm more knowledgeable in that tracker currently ;)
Level 11 Chipist
post #106455 :: 2019.01.03 6:13am :: edit 2019.01.03 10:36am
Now that I look at it, I didn't actually pay enough attention to your issue. I guess you may have to make a copy of the target instruments you wanna add filter, but with the configurations you wanna use, because Deflemask :/
Level 30 Chipist
post #106456 :: 2019.01.03 6:17am
Actually, I tried that too…….. .=D , I still Think im doing this wrong.
Level 23 Chipist
post #106513 :: 2019.01.05 11:12am
  Slimeball and kleeder liēkd this
reviving myself just for fsound brb
Level 25 Chipist
post #106514 :: 2019.01.05 12:46pm :: edit 2019.01.05 1:06pm
  MiDoRi liēkd this
hey, if im making an adlib entry in .mptm (or even .s3m for that matter, as long as im doing it in openmpt) format, what limitations should i adhere to? (aside from the obvious ones such as no filters, no PCM samples, i mean more stuff like "how many channels should i use?" "is there a max number of instruments i can have?" etc etc)
Level 25 Taggist
post #106515 :: 2019.01.05 1:17pm
  MiDoRi and raphaelgoulart liēkd this
s3m opl already has a channel limit. but i dont know about other limitations
Level 25 Chipist
post #106516 :: 2019.01.05 1:29pm :: edit 2019.01.05 1:34pm
  MiDoRi, Galgox and kleeder liēkd this
yeah but how many channels? on openmpt apparently i can have 32 channels and notes playing on all of them at the same time, but would that work on real hardware? what are the real hardware limitations i should play attention to?

edit: nevermind, i found out its 9 upon saving the module (openmpt warned me that "This module has more than 9 OPL channels, which is not supported by Scream Tracker 3.") oops

edit 2: if i remember correctly, adlib tracker II has a channel limitation of 18 channels. so would a 18-channel mptm file be a valid entry, even though s3m only supports 9 channels, since adlib tracker II supports 18?
Level 25 Taggist
post #106517 :: 2019.01.05 1:44pm
  MiDoRi liēkd this
good questions and i'm curious, too.
Level 25 Chipist
post #106518 :: 2019.01.05 2:03pm
  MiDoRi and kleeder liēkd this
if anything just make a 18-channel opm-only s3m file, open that in adlib tracker 2, resave and submit the .a2m file
but having mptm as a valid format would be useful since we'd have access to volume/pan/pitch envelopes and other cool stuff that i know im forgetting
Level 26 Chipist
post #106519 :: 2019.01.05 2:18pm :: edit 2019.01.05 2:20pm
  Slimeball, MiDoRi and raphaelgoulart liēkd this
linked 2op instruments (to make a 4op instrument) take up 2 channels of space on adlib tracker, so keep that in mind if youre doing opl3 stuff beyond the usual realm of just extra waveforms.
really, what mptm needs is a player that can play it back on hardware that has an adlib soundcard, otherwise opl3 is more in the realms of a vst than it is support
Level 25 Chipist
post #106521 :: 2019.01.05 2:36pm
  MiDoRi liēkd this
i dont think 4-op instruments are possible on openMPT but i could be wrong
also yeah thats a good point; even though it technically runs on hardware, if there isnt a mptm player for it then it cannot be played on hardware therefore shouldn't be accepted
someone should probably create a forum thread to discuss that
Level 22 Chipist
post #106537 :: 2019.01.06 11:48am
  Slimeball liēkd this
Damn, so many tempting low end formats. Will try to do at least F and TED, hopefully zxbeep, VIC, and TIA as well. Time's been an awfully scarce resource around here lately, though.
Level 9 Chipist
post #106546 :: 2019.01.06 7:27pm
  MiDoRi, YQN, kleeder and Galgox liēkd this
Ooh TIA!

If anyone needs a crisp render from hardware, feel free to ask me!
Level 27 Hostist
post #106567 :: 2019.01.07 1:35pm
  MiDoRi, Jangler, Robyn and raphaelgoulart liēkd this
From what I understand adlib is OPL2 with 9 channels mono, and the soundblaster (and maybe adlib gold) are OPL3 with 18 channels stereo. I'm sure there's someone here that knows this off the top of their head better than I do...
Level 30 chipist
post #106570 :: 2019.01.07 5:55pm
  puke7 and Galgox liēkd this
HEY! where'd channel f go!??!?!?!
Level 5 Chipist
post #106574 :: 2019.01.07 6:34pm
  MiDoRi, raphaelgoulart, tennisers and Robyn liēkd this
Level 10 Chipist
post #106600 :: 2019.01.09 12:50pm :: edit 2019.01.09 1:42pm
  Slimeball liēkd this
wishlist of formats:

[]ay chip
Level 20 Pixelist
post #106602 :: 2019.01.09 5:09pm
  Slimeball and raphaelgoulart liēkd this
If i'm not mistaken OpenMPT will not play more than 18 OPLx voices at once, and if you exceed that, it's just going to lead to voice stealing, but yeah for the real HW it's either 18-channels of 2OP instruments, and 9 for 4OP (if i'm getting it right they can be mixed, but 4OP ones will always eat 2 out of 18 voices)

EDIT: It's apparently more complicated

Citing that site:
So let's clear some facts. First, OPL3 has only thirty-six (36) operators which can be combined in several ways:

18 FM channels (36 operators), or
15 FM channels (30 ops) and 5 percussion instruments (6 ops), giving us 20 channels altogether, or
up to 6 four-operator FM channels (max 24 ops), the rest again being divided into two-operator FM channels and drums.

From the table above you can see that not all channels can be used in four- operator (4-OP) mode -- only a part of the synthesizer is really capable of making 4-OP sounds -- the rest uses traditional two-operator (2-OP) mode.

Second, the manual states this card is capable of "stereo" music. Yes, the quotes are necessary, because the stereo capabilities are very limited. You are given ability to control output going to left or right channel by turning it on and off. That's all. So the sound can flow from very left side, center and very right side. No sound panning, no special stereo effects. :-(

Also OpenMPT supports OPL3 features except for the operator count dumbed down to 2, but it might change soon-ish
Level 26 Chipist
post #106623 :: 2019.01.11 8:28am :: edit 2019.01.11 8:29am
  Robyn, MiDoRi, puke7, Galgox, irrlicht project and kleeder liēkd this
Over 100 entries of not wildchip \o/ keep bit up
Level 22 Chipist
post #106624 :: 2019.01.11 10:53am :: edit 2019.01.11 11:00am
  kleeder, Slimeball, Chip Champion and puke7 liēkd this
A little psa since I just saw Chip Champ rant about non-working MAME:
MAME versions 0.193 - 0.204 had a bug in the F8 core which broke Sleizsa Trio. It's been fixed in 0.205 so either upgrade to that or stick with your legacy MESS builds :D

Also why is Chip Champion a chipist when everyone else is a Chipist? hmmmm guess when I grow up I wanna be a Cheapist.
Level 30 chipist
post #106626 :: 2019.01.11 12:27pm
  irrlicht project, Yung Gotenks, kleeder and Slimeball liēkd this
"Why?" is a question we have to ask a lot around here at botb :p
Level 25 Taggist
post #106627 :: 2019.01.11 2:39pm
zanzan is also a chipist!
Level 30 chipist
post #106628 :: 2019.01.11 4:28pm
  kleeder liēkd this
proof of our eternal bond
Level 25 Taggist
post #106675 :: 2019.01.14 10:55am
  Robyn liēkd this
just realized there are 25 formats right now wow. thats a plenty. guess there will be no more formats added, huh?
Level 16 Chipist
post #106683 :: 2019.01.14 6:01pm
  kleeder liēkd this
never say never.
also i kinda want wildchip. it's okay if it doesnt get added but can we have it?
Level 18 Mixist
post #106700 :: 2019.01.16 3:22pm
  YQN, Galgox, kleeder, A-zu-ra and petet liēkd this
i only compose in PXTONE godDAMMIT
Level 10 Criticist
post #106704 :: 2019.01.17 4:05am
  Jimmyoshi liēkd this
Yes I like the idea of wildchip being added.
Level 17 Chipist
post #106709 :: 2019.01.17 10:45am
  petet, Torowin, tfx, Yung Gotenks, gotoandplay, Galgox, MiDoRi and kleeder liēkd this
Level 30 Chipist
post #106724 :: 2019.01.18 5:18am
  kfaraday liēkd this
Is it possible to add the GameBoy Pin-out Reverse format? it's like Gameboy, but all pin-outs on the chips are reversed.
Level 30 chipist
post #106732 :: 2019.01.18 4:27pm
  Strobe liēkd this
strobe you asshole you aren't allowed to have more entries than me DX !!!!
Level 30 Chipist
post #106741 :: 2019.01.19 5:54am
  Chip Champion liēkd this
I was merely trying to trigger your chipmusic-sensors, since I felt that you were being a bit on the low-end this year, what's up with my favorite assmonger??! ARE YOU CHICKENING OUT?
Level 30 chipist
post #106742 :: 2019.01.19 6:22am
i got caught with no juice, give me a re-do in a month :P

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