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13021
Level 15 Playa Playa
puke7 a Mighty BotBr ADMIN
post #13021 :: 2010-03-25 22:07:03   
Alright, gang! I like the idea of new formats coming into the system. But we've got a problem. WILDCARD is currently a chiptune format. It gives chippist points. ALLGEAR is a mixist format. Now, I'm thinking I should create a format known as 'chiptune' to free up 'wildcard' for new formats in OHBs. First, I will have to reassign all wildcard entries to this chiptune format. WILDCARD would give playa points.

Now, let's not abuse this when it comes around, eh? An OHB using the wildcard format should be worth creating a new format. If it's not everyone involved shall be punished!! D:<

Also, BotBrs should feel free to add format ideas in this thread.
 
13023
Level 17 Chipist Chipist
tadpole a Mighty BotBr
post #13023 :: 2010-03-26 04:07:01   
So basically, the 'chiptune' category will be for all types of chip music that doesn't fall under one of the other categories (whether it be a chip not listed, or a combination of chips, or a 'faking it' chiptune)?

And allgear is for making a song which could be non-chiptune with no restrictions on samples/tools?

Wildcard will be for submitting any type of file?

Cool. Also, I plan to submit sega genesis VGMs, KSSs, and HESs in future battles.
 
13024
Level 21 chipist chipist
Chip Champion a Mighty BotBr ADMIN
post #13024 :: 2010-03-26 09:00:46 :: edit 2010-03-26 09:03:53  
for music it seems we have almost everything covered that i can think of. the only things that came to mind were the DS ans PSP. i dont think you can get at the source files for stuff like the DS-10, but i still think it would be a nice inclusion.

with the psp however, it is very easy to get a hold of teh source files. the psp also has a nice variety of tools on it. pspseq is especially interesting http://dspmusic.org/psp/

another good thing about including the psp format is that so few people are making music with it. a few ohcs and botb would be the king of psp music ;D

on a side note, there was an adlib ohc a while back and we all had a lot of trouble getting around to hearing eachothers tracks for votings. it would be pretty cool if somebody made a standalone adlib module player. botb could have its own n00btools, by noobs for n00bz
 
13025
Level 15 Playa Playa
puke7 a Mighty BotBr ADMIN
post #13025 :: 2010-03-26 11:14:46   
Tadpole - .VGM and .HES I know of, but what is .KSS?

Allgear may still have restrictions according to a Battle's host.

Chip Champion - help me out a little -- is there a certain fileformat for PSPseq or is .MP3 the easiest thing to submit?

The PSP thing reminds me that we once had a LGPT battle and I don't think there is a format for that either yet.
 
13026
Level 12 OHCist OHCist
ant1 a Mighty BotBr
post #13026 :: 2010-03-26 11:46:31   
KSS is master system i think...

I like this idea of one format for chips, one for general music, and one for absolutely anything... it's cool
 
13032
Level 21 chipist chipist
Chip Champion a Mighty BotBr ADMIN
post #13032 :: 2010-03-26 13:05:24   
@puke7 yes PSPseq has pretty small .seq files. the only problem is that .seq files are version specific and wont work between different versions. also, you would need to submit any extra samples you used outside of the basic pack you get with the prog. this could possibly mean having "synth only" and "pspseq unlimited" formats.

the other big prog for the psp is Rhythm which is more of a sample sequencer. it looks pretty, but i havent really used it so i dont know much about it.
 
13033
Level 16 Mixist Mixist
null1024 a Mighty BotBr
post #13033 :: 2010-03-26 13:12:39   
When submitting stuff from LGPT, it's just a folder that contains your patternlist and the samples. We just zipped our folders when we submitted our entries then.
 
13035
Level 10 OHCist OHCist
Soiled Bargains a Mighty BotBr
post #13035 :: 2010-03-26 13:18:47   
PSP? PlayStation Portable?
 
13040
Level 21 chipist chipist
Chip Champion a Mighty BotBr ADMIN
post #13040 :: 2010-03-26 14:59:15   
jaajaj soiled
 
13041
Level 10 OHCist OHCist
Soiled Bargains a Mighty BotBr
post #13041 :: 2010-03-26 15:15:03   
Wouldn't the quality be higher than what BotB looks for?

On a side note, I think "html/css" should be renamed to "(x)html". The icon can be teh same, dough.
 
13042
Level 25 Mixist Mixist
Baron Knoxburry a Mighty BotBr ADMIN
post #13042 :: 2010-03-26 15:26:47   
BotB likes quality! :P

so PSPseq would require a version number attached to the format token....
 
13044
Level 17 Chipist Chipist
tadpole a Mighty BotBr
post #13044 :: 2010-03-26 15:31:37   
KSS = for the MSX home computer.
 
13045
Level 16 Criticist Criticist
anewuser a Mighty BotBr ADMIN
post #13045 :: 2010-03-26 16:38:47 :: edit 2010-03-26 16:49:52  
kss can even do arcade stuff (z80 variants) and a whole plethora of other many consoles :s

Pxtone?! synth+sample based. japan powered.

Last I checked there were about 1,3gb of freely downloadable and viewable (module format like) files on the pxtone archive (which seems to have vanished) for people to check+listen. Winamp plugin available + playback from within the "tracker". It's quite strange
and different from vertical OR horizontal style of music tools XD
 
13046
Level 10 OHCist OHCist
Soiled Bargains a Mighty BotBr
post #13046 :: 2010-03-26 16:50:58   
If you guys like quality, then Kulor wouldn't be blabbing on how much you guys hate good music since "See You Next Year" placed horribly Winterchip IV!

Beautiful tribute... bad n00bz.
 
13048
Level 12 OHCist OHCist
ant1 a Mighty BotBr
post #13048 :: 2010-03-26 19:25:59   
Klystrack =)
 
13050
Level 16 Mixist Mixist
null1024 a Mighty BotBr
post #13050 :: 2010-03-26 21:12:25   
Seconding ant1's suggestion. It's like a Windows version of AHX [that for some reason doesn't spit out .ahx files damnit].
 
13052
Level 14 chipist chipist
zanzan a Mighty BotBr
post #13052 :: 2010-03-26 23:02:07   
semi-related - with ze ascii OHBs, perhaps BotB could just load the whole contents of the txt file between shitty UBB quote tags so zat no-one has to download zem?
 
13053
Level 9 Chipist Chipist
Zero a Mighty BotBr
post #13053 :: 2010-03-27 07:22:06   
I heard something about HES files?

I like the PC Engine. Is there software like Famitracker for it?
 
13054
Level 12 OHCist OHCist
ant1 a Mighty BotBr
post #13054 :: 2010-03-27 07:56:24   
no there is not a finished tracker there is a MML compiler and a thing where you write raw data into a rom with a hex editor and there is a thing which converts .mod which not finished and a tracker which is a long way from finished
 
13055
Level 16 Mixist Mixist
chunter a Mighty BotBr
post #13055 :: 2010-03-27 14:54:14   
Since nobody spelled it out, please correct me if I'm wrong. The diference between Wildcard and Allgear is that Allgear is a SAMPLE PLAYING format, Wildcard was meant for chiptunes that don't match an existing format class.

I think Chiptune should be a format fo chip battles with no format categories, Wilcard should only be possible in big cateorized chiptune compos like Winter Chip.

$0.02
 
13057
Level 10 OHCist OHCist
Soiled Bargains a Mighty BotBr
post #13057 :: 2010-03-27 16:57:21   
We need a Schizo format for "make any file" collabs. :>
 
13058
Level 26 Chipist Chipist
Strobe a Mighty BotBr ADMIN
post #13058 :: 2010-03-27 17:05:31   
I think we have pretty much saturated all formats,
everything that gets added now on will just be confusing. :P
 
13062
Level 16 Mixist Mixist
null1024 a Mighty BotBr
post #13062 :: 2010-03-28 11:38:34   
I agree with Soiled's idea, if wildcard and allgear have already taken meanings, something for just anything else would be nice.
 
13269
Level 10 OHCist OHCist
Soiled Bargains a Mighty BotBr
post #13269 :: 2010-05-07 18:12:38   
Thanks null :D

Also, could we add a Flash format where we can submit either FLA, ZIP (all the source files), or SWF? We have at least three people who have Flash here: kulor, null1024 and myself.
 
13270
Level 24 Mixist Mixist
ui a Mighty BotBr ADMIN
post #13270 :: 2010-05-07 20:23:59   
i suggest not trashie formats, for that use WILDCARD or ALLGEARS... cuz been hones some of the formats had never been used. But well, it's nice to add formats if you guys will use it.
 
13650
Level 10 OHCist OHCist
Soiled Bargains a Mighty BotBr
post #13650 :: 2010-07-28 16:40:00   
What happened to html?
 
13652
Level 15 Playa Playa
puke7 a Mighty BotBr ADMIN
post #13652 :: 2010-07-28 16:58:21   
I think it got overwritten somehow. It's back now.

No hotlinking!! :P
 
 

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