tuplet swing rhythm exploration
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so I saw some video of this dude named Scott (who had kidnapped Adam Neely and his drummer friend) and it's all about exploiting working musicians to make them learn things which is wrong

but i digress...

here's a vid I spent 10+ hours on exploring tuplet swang
Level 17 Mixist
post #96514 :: 2018.02.19 10:43pm
  Sinc-X and Baron Knoxburry liēkd this
Watched the video. Very good :D
Level 21 Pixelist
post #96526 :: 2018.02.20 2:43am :: edit 2018.02.20 2:44am
  Sinc-X liēkd this
Now that was both entertaining and informative one!
You got some fookin dank groves there ;D
Level 23 Chipist
post #96538 :: 2018.02.20 6:41am
  Warlord and Sinc-X liēkd this
swang that thang
srlsly, this is great! 10+ hours well spent, puke.
Level 27 Chipist
post #96551 :: 2018.02.20 10:08am
  MiDoRi, sleeparrow and Sinc-X liēkd this
i am glad someone is evangelizing pentuplet swang because i want it to become the new standard
Level 27 Chipist
post #96555 :: 2018.02.20 10:36am
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also don't dare underestimate triskaidekaphobia. that track has been kicking thirteen kinds of ass for a decade
Level 29 Mixist
post #96566 :: 2018.02.20 12:44pm :: edit 2018.02.20 4:18pm
I'm not knocking the tune per se. But I do remember Chunter Warlord (I think it was) calling me out for getting wanky towards the end which struck a chord with me because I really didn't know how to add to the song at the point where that started. I discovered a "jazzy/bebop" scale on accident and had no idea how to change it and still sound good.
Level 27 Hostist
post #96577 :: 2018.02.20 3:00pm
....uh.... eh... if anyone wants to help me promote on facebook I'll accept all like-type-reactions
Level 27 Renderist
post #96637 :: 2018.02.21 6:04pm :: edit 2018.02.21 6:05pm
  puke7 and MiDoRi liēkd this
wow that 13 song is so good :x

solid ending! wow you didn't shit the bed on the ending of that song too!

glad you had some fun learning some things with beats. yer puss is too danky with memes though. O:/ (great renoisetrackthatyouwillfinishtoo!!)
Level 7 Playa
post #96722 :: 2018.02.24 2:47am
Why wear gloves? It takes away all the feeling.
Level 23 Mixist
post #96731 :: 2018.02.24 9:10am
  Baron Knoxburry and Grumskiz liēkd this
You need to explore euclidean rhythms next!
Level 27 Chipist
post #96738 :: 2018.02.24 11:27am
  Robyn, Savestate, petet and Jangler liēkd this
isn't this just F06/F04...? its good that music theory youtube made a whole video on that for some reason
Level 27 Chipist
post #96745 :: 2018.02.24 4:20pm :: edit 2018.02.24 4:22pm
imo the difference is that F06/F04 is usually treated as lopsided triplets instead of actual pentuplets; you can't even write full pentuplets in four rows of an IT module channel, which is how swing is usually spaced

edit although i haven't watched the original video and baron does seem to be doing the F06/F04 type of thing
Level 29 Mixist
post #96761 :: 2018.02.25 10:14am
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Cessor -- that's a good idea! I can use my modular for that.

charlotte -- typically I use F08/F04 which averages out to F06 and keeps your BPM accurate; that's considered a hard triplet swing. But this video focuses on a lot of different tuplet divisions based on 5, 7, 11 and 13 note-lengthed tuplets. How hard you want that swang, baby?
Level 9 Chipist
post #96772 :: 2018.02.25 6:17pm :: edit 2018.02.25 6:32pm
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Like J-Dilla would say: "just play it like you're drunk"

I love how musicians trying to systematize this "drunk" J-Dilla feel have come up with all sorts of ways to emulate it and build upon it so much that it's become a trend in modern jazz, neo soul and other close genres. There's many people achieving this sound, and resources explaining how to get it ranging from "just play it wrong", hearkening back to the famous "just play it like you're drunk" J-Dilla saying, to people like Jacob Collier and Arthur Buckner (and Adam Neely in the original video of course) who are very cerebral and methodical about it and who have insane execution to actually perform those rhythms and other complex ones.

Love this Jacob Collier interview where he talks about it
Level 27 Hostist
post #96782 :: 2018.02.26 8:44am
  Cessor Safari and Jangler liēkd this
I want to say it was MF Doom (not totally sure) that said "always play your hats" on the MPC because straight hats make it boring.
Level 27 Chipist
post #96784 :: 2018.02.26 10:12am :: edit 2018.02.26 10:40am
  Apsarah, aji, pedipanol, IronFairy and Cessor Safari liēkd this
miles davis - boplicity

^ light swing

wayne shorter - witch hunt

^ triplet swing

oscar peterson - night train

^ hard swing

eric dolphy - hat and beard

^ no gods, no masters

related ideas: playing slightly behind and ahead of the beat (common in jazz; extremely rare in tracker music), different parts playing in different swing ratios (common in jazz; absolute madness in tracker music)

edit: to be clear, the head of boplicity does also employ actual triplets, but over two beats instead of over one.
Level 29 Mixist
post #96925 :: 2018.02.28 1:12pm
  Apsarah and Jangler liēkd this
Jangler thanks for posting these!
Level 10 Mixist
post #97295 :: 2018.03.07 4:15pm
interesting vibeo
Level 27 Chipist
post #98571 :: 2018.04.18 11:09pm :: edit 2018.04.18 11:09pm
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weird https://youtu.be/4OxST7pVcAU

edit: moonchild - the truth
Level 17 Chipist
post #98581 :: 2018.04.19 12:44pm
  Sintel, Grumskiz and puke7 liēkd this
Interesting stuff =)) Also, thank you for sharing these cool tunes, Jangler!
the virgin light swing vs THE CHAD PENTUPLET SWANG

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