How do you listen to music on BotB? With or without headphones?
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83953
Level 16 Pixelist
post #83953 :: 2017.05.15 2:07pm
  
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Hey everyone,

I was wondering was dispositive you guys use in order to listen to music here in BotB, wether it is for voting or just for fun :) That could be using earphones, headphones, computer speakers, real good speakers...
And also, what do you use for composing!

Because I think this aspect is pretty important, and it also influences the way that we percieive and create music!

So just let me know :)
 
 
83954
Level 27 Chipist
post #83954 :: 2017.05.15 2:08pm
  
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over-ear headphones when at my desktop, on-ear headphones otherwise. the only time i use speakers is for making sure my tunes sound ok on them :P
 
 
83955
Level 28 Chipist
post #83955 :: 2017.05.15 2:09pm :: edit 2017.05.15 2:12pm
  
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When voting I make sure I am using good equipment. When listening casually I'll still often be using good headphones, but that's not always the case.

Edit:
My non headphone, casual devices are my Yamaha keyboard and monitor speakers and iphone speaker

Edit2: I sometimes do the "sounds ok" test jangler mentioned as well haha

Edit3: my computer monitor speakers, not the expensive kind similarly named lol
 
 
83956
Level 13 Chipist
post #83956 :: 2017.05.15 2:15pm
  
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I use a pair of Audio Technica ATH-M30s. They're lacking greatly in bass so I used an EQ on my mac.
 
 
83957
Level 21 Mixist
post #83957 :: 2017.05.15 2:37pm
  
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i switch between ATH-M50x's (closed back) and DT 990 pro's (open back), both over the ear headphones. i have no speakers and regular earbuds won't reach the audio jack in my computer :(
 
 
83959
Level 23 Grafxicist
post #83959 :: 2017.05.15 2:38pm
  
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An average pair of over-ear headphones. Nothing fancy, but never speakers (mostly out of consideration for my roommates).
 
 
83960
Level 13 Pixelist
post #83960 :: 2017.05.15 2:38pm :: edit 2017.05.15 2:39pm
  
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I am a professional music producer and as such I use cheap earbuds for everything

You gotta listen to your music how the average joe will do it!!!! !! !! ! !!!!!!!!!
 
 
83962
Level 16 Pixelist
post #83962 :: 2017.05.15 2:41pm :: edit 2017.05.15 2:43pm
  
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Hahaha Blaze Weednix I like that philosophy!

Apparently many of you use headphones! not too big of a surprise

In my case, I switch between lame earphones, occasionally a great pair of AKG studio headphones, and computer speakers, because I live in a room where i can't bother anyone :P

And I think we have all done that Jangler test already.. ^^
 
 
83963
Level 25 Mixist
sc
post #83963 :: 2017.05.15 2:44pm
  
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I use cheap Sony "studio monitor" headphones. They're actually really accurate. I always check masters on my DS-90 Monitors and the mix is almost always close.
 
 
83967
Level 16 Pixelist
post #83967 :: 2017.05.15 4:12pm :: edit 2017.05.15 4:13pm
  
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I'm on a notebook, so I always use headphones for everything, but nothing fancy, just cheapass Sony MDR ZX310
model. Their frequency response is pretty mediocre, they have overstated, boomy bass and kinda muffled mid-range, which i try to compensate for using system-wide equalization.

Other than that, i also have old Labtec Arena 530 speakers, connected to (equally old) Pentium 4 desktop PC, but i don't really use them anymore. And I hate earbuds, they're the least convenient thing ever imo. [Merio haeitd this :^)]
 
 
83969
Level 25 Chipist
post #83969 :: 2017.05.15 4:14pm
My current pair of headphones is a Sony MDR-101. They're my preferred pair.
 
 
83970
Level 13 Chipist
post #83970 :: 2017.05.15 4:31pm :: edit 2017.05.15 4:32pm
  
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I usually just listen to music in general with my laptop speakers. Some stuff sounds much better with headphones, but I'm more likely to hurt my ears if i'm wearing headphones because i'm a poor judge of whether something is too loud or not.
 
 
83972
Level 22 Chipist
post #83972 :: 2017.05.15 4:44pm
  
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I usually listen to stuff on my headphones, on my phone I use earbuds. And that's kinda it. :p
 
 
83974
Level 25 Chipist
post #83974 :: 2017.05.15 5:58pm
  
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whatever the mood suits!
 
 
83976
Level 22 Chipist
post #83976 :: 2017.05.15 6:55pm
  
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i use exclusively bose soundtrue headphones. really good sound quality for their price, albeit with the tradeoff of not being super durable (you can tell where all the money goes!!)
 
 
83978
Level 23 Chipist
post #83978 :: 2017.05.15 7:15pm
I have Grado open back phones. I use them in the living room, the television is too loud for bleed to bother my family.

I learned how to compensate for the issues of working this way and rarely use speakers.
 
 
83983
Level 26 Chipist
post #83983 :: 2017.05.15 7:55pm
  
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I always use headphones for everything. Laptop speakers tend to be pretty terrible from my experience.
 
 
83987
Level 27 Chipist
post #83987 :: 2017.05.15 8:58pm :: edit 2017.05.30 3:04pm
  
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i used some $20 sennheiser headphones for most of the music i've made (anything pre-2016). i made a lot of music wow!!!!

but i bought a pair of audio-technica mth-m40x's about a year and a half ago and now i rarely make music lmao!!!
 
 
83989
Level 21 Mixist
post #83989 :: 2017.05.15 10:08pm :: edit 2017.05.15 10:11pm
I listen to most stuff with Sennheiser HD280s(? wow I forget which model already lol) but I yearn dearly for a pair of good monitors + no roommates or neighbors

Edit: if I'm hanging out in the game lab at school I use these blue Gamer Headphones whose model I don't know that have too much bass but otherwise sound decent
 
 
83990
Level 23 Chipist
post #83990 :: 2017.05.15 11:15pm :: edit 2017.05.15 11:15pm
  
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If it involves audio of any kind, earphones. 'Cause it's what I got.

Right now I'm using some pretty cheap Panasonic earphones that sound... OK. I'm not an audiophile by any means, and I think I do have a bit of hearing deficiencies in certain frequency ranges... Nothing too crazy, I hear "fine", but not fine enough to justify like, the ultimate listening experience, with gold plugs and silver wiring and whatnot
 
 
84002
Level 16 Pixelist
post #84002 :: 2017.05.16 4:01am
Golden plugs and silver wirings are placebo for """""audiophiles" """"anyway
 
 
84003
Level 29 Mixist
post #84003 :: 2017.05.16 4:39am
  
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For over a decade, I've been really big on the Sony MDR-7506 headphones. They're not always the best choice for tracking vocals or drums or anything that involves microphones, because they bleed like crazy despite being closed back, but for monitoring or checking mixes they're the best I've ever used.
And I've used an awful lot of different studio headphones.
I recommend these to everyone! They don't have the best bass response, so if something sounds very bottom-heavy in these phones, it's probably going to cause seismic activity on big speakers. Also, they are very sensitive in the high frequency department, so the tendency is to mix too "dull" to compensate at first. If the highs are slightly harsh in these phones, they're probably pretty good elsewhere.

I also use Ultrasone HFI-450's, mainly for tracking live instruments or vocals. They are the exact opposite of the Sonys. Heavy on the bottom, dull in the treble, hardly bleed at all cause they grip your head like a vise. I also wear them when using power tools in the garage, haha.

For speakers I have my old M-Audio BX8 monitors that I've never really liked since I bought them in 2002, but I've learned to mix on them so I keep them. Both studios where I work have Tannoy Reveal 8" monitors (per my suggestion). Not expensive, but boy do those mixes translate well. Great speakers.
 
 
84005
Level 13 Chipist
post #84005 :: 2017.05.16 5:56am :: edit 2017.05.31 12:38am
Audio Technica ATH-M50X (edit: not true)

although my onboard soundchip is litteraly balls and doesn't output the most detailed/strong signals, but a new audio card or interface can fix that in the future I suppose
 
 
84006
Level 14 Codist
post #84006 :: 2017.05.16 6:30am
audiotechnica meme50x as well
 
 
84007
Level 13 Mixist
post #84007 :: 2017.05.16 6:55am
  
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Another one for the ATH-M50x :3

Buuuut mostly I use my old jbl speakers, an old kenwood receiver and a terrible logitech bluetooth audio thingy. (that's the real weak point in the set up, the DAC in it kills everything)
 
 
84008
Level 16 Pixelist
post #84008 :: 2017.05.16 8:03am
  
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Damn, those rich kids and their expensive gear...
/me hides xD
 
 
84009
Level 20 Chipist
post #84009 :: 2017.05.16 8:25am
  
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lmao I've made everything with shitty earbuds
 
 
84010
Level 27 Chipist
post #84010 :: 2017.05.16 8:58am
  
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listening to your own music while making it is vanity
 
 
84015
Level 22 Mixist
post #84015 :: 2017.05.16 10:21am
  
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I mainly use M1Active 320USB monitors by Alesis bcuz they were cheap and I needed something else besides headphones. Headphones kind of make me feel like I'm on life support, and a dying old grampa is gumming on my ears. The stereo image is also really confusing to me when switching from monitors to headphones. It's almost like the music is suffering from vertigo @0@. Anyways my monitors are crap, but honest in a weird sense, and I'm just used to their poop sound. I have a pair of ATH-M20x headphones by Audio-Technica. They aren't great but no worse than my monitors. I mainly use them to listen to music while I go on leisurely strolls thru duh hood. I also have a pair of DT-880 Pros that I use every once upon a blue moon when a curly grey hair goes up my ass, or whatever that saying is. The End.
 
 
84020
Level 20 Chipist
post #84020 :: 2017.05.16 10:56am :: edit 2017.05.16 10:57am
Damn straight Jangler.

But to answer the main question I use $5 JVC Gumy earbuds when composing and listening on my PC. On my phone I use Skullcandy (idr the model) bluetooth headphones. I only use them for my phone because they're a pain in the ass (I always have to redo pairing for some reason, so I just don't care anymore).

One of these days I'll get an upgrade. One of these days...
 
 
84022
Level 18 Chipist
MS
post #84022 :: 2017.05.16 11:06am :: edit 2017.05.16 11:07am
  
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Speakers! Yamaha NS-10M Studio
 
 
84031
Level 9 Criticist
post #84031 :: 2017.05.16 1:00pm
  
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Like this when I am at home :
http://www.tmeeco.eu/BitShit/EntertainmentCenter3.jpg

When away and it is some Pioneer headphones only usually.
 
 
84032
Level 16 Pixelist
post #84032 :: 2017.05.16 1:05pm
Wow that's a lovely place!!
 
 
84033
Level 22 Samplist
post #84033 :: 2017.05.16 1:59pm
  
  Cessor Safari, sleeparrow, Galak Sea, mootbooxle, shinichi and sc liēkd this
being an old schooler, I run BOTB radio through the PA at my house.... volume level changes can be drastic (-:
 
 
84038
Level 29 Mixist
post #84038 :: 2017.05.16 5:25pm
  
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MS with the legit Yamaha NS-10's! That's cool.
I used them in school...they are everything people say they are...Not the most "pleasant" monitors but some of the most "honest". If if sounds good on NS-10's, it sounds good period!
 
 
84047
Level 19 Mixist
post #84047 :: 2017.05.16 10:31pm
  
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rokit krks in my studio and macbook speakers when im just chillin.
 
 
84050
Level 15 Chipist
post #84050 :: 2017.05.17 12:32am
i just got some on-ear sony headphones for everything i do on pc (gets those yummy low frequencies ;3) and i have in-ear earbuds for when im out and about, i forgot the brand :P
 
 
84052
Level 27 Chipist
post #84052 :: 2017.05.17 4:36am
  
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i am proud to be vain
 
 
84059
Level 25 Mixist
sc
post #84059 :: 2017.05.17 12:39pm
  
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MS and Mootbooxle, do you think NS-10s represent bass frequencies properly? I feel like for electronic music you would need to hear definition in the bass more clearly for mixing. They don't seem as flat as people say to me but very heavy on the high end.

I feel like rokit krks are also not very flat for the opposite reason. I think they kick out more bass than is really there from what I've heard.

Now I'm tempted to try M1Active 320USBs and Tannoy Reveal 8s haha so much cheaper than both!
 
 
84061
Level 27 Chipist
post #84061 :: 2017.05.17 1:19pm :: edit 2017.05.17 1:19pm
A cheap pair of Panasonic RP-HJE120 earbuds. All the speakers I have are basically laptop speaker tier, so fuck that.

I've bought over-ear headphones and the lot before, but I basically just buy another pair of these every time they break. Considering most headphones I've bought last about the same length of time, there's no point in me getting nicer, more expensive ones.
 
 
84065
Level 16 Pixelist
post #84065 :: 2017.05.17 3:09pm
  
  sc, TMM12, MiDoRi, Dimeback, blank and mootbooxle liēkd this
wow i wasn't expecting this thread to grow so much and all you audio freaks knowing the exact numbers of your earbud models ^^

apparently the conclusion for me is that I should stop composing music with my computer's speakers...
 
 
84116
Level 17 OHCist
post #84116 :: 2017.05.18 9:37pm
both, neither
 
 
84148
Level 29 Mixist
post #84148 :: 2017.05.20 12:57am :: edit 2017.05.20 1:00am
  
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sc: I don't think NS-10s have the greatest bass response. They're actually not all that "accurate"...they just seem to have an uncanny ability to produce mixes that translate well to other systems.

I've also used the Tannoy Reveals with a KRK 10" subwoofer - it's a bit of an adjustment but they still seem to help me make mixes that translate. I don't ever just listen on one system anyway...Always gotta try them in headphones and in the car.
Listening somewhere that you're used to, even if it's a bad system, can help produce good results.
If you're used to the way recordings that you like sound on certain speakers, it's a good idea to use those recordings as a sonic reference to whatever you're working on. Over the same speakers.
Sometimes that may even be something you've made previously that you think sounds great on several systems.
Hope that makes sense! I think my wording may be a little convoluted, lol.
 
 
84149
Level 13 Chipist
post #84149 :: 2017.05.20 1:32am
  
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Used to use a pair of cheapo pc speakers with okay-ish sound, but recently got my hands on a pair of DT-990 pro's, and that is a purchase I am not regretting one bit.
 
 
84915
Level 13 Chipist
post #84915 :: 2017.05.30 2:40pm :: edit 2017.05.31 10:51am
  
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Ok I wasn't completely honest;

I used something else up till now and finally got my AT ATH-M50x today

And B O I

THIS SHIT IS FUCKING GARBAGE LOL the mids are nowhere to be found, atleast to me here

returning these to the store very quickly
 
 
84962
Level 16 Pixelist
post #84962 :: 2017.05.31 2:08am
Lmao
 
 
85027
Level 20 Chipist
post #85027 :: 2017.05.31 9:39pm :: edit 2017.05.31 9:40pm
I got a pair of Grado open back for listening and what not. Most music I wrote was made on these, I just got a pair of Senal's for monitoring and mixing and have used my dad's car speakers to check my mixes. I'm working on getting a pair of 40w JBL's for recording in the future...
 
 

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